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Werte Dhammafreunde,

ich möchte Sie gerne dazu einladen, die nächsten zwei Wochen am

1. Dhamma Vinaya Vihara google retreat
teilzunehmen.


Dear Dhamma friends,

I would like to invite you to participate on the

1. Dhamma Vinaya Vihara google retreat.



Dhamma lehren mit Bilder  - Teaching Dhamma by pictures

Was ist ein google retreat?

Gleich vorweg, das google retreat dient nicht dazu ein Unternehmen wir google zu boykottieren, sondern dazu Achtsamkeit im Bezug auf Intentionen des Nehmens und des Gebens zu üben. Der einzige Grund, warum es google Retreat genannt wird, ist das diese Tätigkeit "googeln" eine allbekannte ist.
Im Grunde ist das google-Retreat eine Übung im Einhalten von Sila "Nicht nehmen was nicht gegeben ist" und da dieses gerade in der Internetwelt kaum beachtet wird, kaum beobachtet wird, stellt es sich als ein hervorragendes Objekt der Meditation dar.


What is a google retreat?

Note, a google retreat does in no way mean to boycott a company like google, but to train one self in regard of mindfulness on intentions to take and to give. The only reason why it is called google retreat is the fact, that the deed "googling" is a common known deed.
In its meaning the retreat is a undertaken to train one self in the precept of "not taking what is not given" and such is rarely observed within the internet, less kept and therefor a perfect object of meditation.


Was sind die Regeln, die Übungen für das Googleretreat?

Für den Zeitraum des Retreats stehen jene, die sich diesem Retreat unterziehen davon ab, Recourcen anderer, die nicht persönlich gegeben wurden in Anspruch zu nehmen. Dies ist, wie sie bald merken, eine sehr große Herausforderung und Gelegenheit die persönlichen Geistehaltungen und Neigungen zu beobachten und zu erkunden.
Dies schränkt sich nicht auf die Nutzung von google als eines der bekanntesten Werkzeuge ein, sondern auf alle Drittanbieterwerkzeuge, die ungefragt oder unerworbene Verwendung von Ressourcen erzeugt.


What are the roles, the course of training at the google retreat?

In the time of the retreat, those who participate abstain from taking and use resources of others, which are not consciously and personally given. This is - as you soon will find out - a big challenge and with it a opportunity to observe the own states of mind and tendencies, to get them known a little. It is not limited to the use of google as one of the most usual tools, but in regard of all third part supplier of tool which causes unrequested  or not gained use of resources of others.


Versuchen Sie in dieser Zeit auch von Werkzeugen wir automatischen Übersetzungen und externen Suchprogrammen und anderen Hilfen zum Beschaffen, Abstand zu nehmen und vielleicht im Gegenzug ihre Möglichkeiten teilen um Dinge Zugänglicher zu machen.

Ein paar Anregungen finden Sie im Allgemeinen Thema A way to use the forum - Eine Art das Forum zu nutzen [Forum Guide]
etwas in Punkten wie:
* Ist es besser, einen ganzen Text zu zitieren oder nur einen Link zu setzen?
* Wie kann ich das Forum sinnvoll, für mich, aber auch für alle anderen nutzen?

Versuchen Sie in dieser Zeit sich auch vermehrt zu überwinden Fragen zu stellen aber auch zuvorkommend im Bezug auf Fragen anderer zu sein.


Try to abstain within this time of tool like automatic translations and external search programs and of other tool to gain and try at the opposite to share the possibilities you have and to support others that they may gain necessary access.

Some hints in general topics, you may find in Thema A way to use the forum - Eine Art das Forum zu nutzen [Forum Guide] (not translated yet)
or in issues like
* Is it better to cite the whole text of to set a link?
* How can I use the forum meaningfull, for may self and others? (not translated yet)


Was ist der Nutzen des Retreats?

Es dient dazu, einerseits Bewußtsein für die steten gewohnten Absichten zu entwickeln, andererseits um Dankbarkeit für Gaben zu entwickeln und über dies hinaus, als Ergebnis dieses Trainings die Notwendigkeit von Großzügigkeit und Zuvorkommenheit für eine Existenz im Internet-Realm zu erkennen, ganz besonders, wenn man tugendhaften Personen, eine Existenz, ein bewohnen zukommen lassen möchte.
Ein google-Retreat, werden Sie bald merken, erfordert einerseits sich auf das zu beziehen, daß zu nutzen und zu teilen über was man wirklich verfügt und andererseits das Unterstützen im Teilen mit den anderen Teilnehmer.
Alles in allem stellt es ein Möglichkeit dar, rechte Ansicht, den ersten Faktor am Pfad zur Befreiung vom Leiden, zu erlangen. Speziell das Verstehen, daß nichts selbstverständlich ist, das da Lehrer sind, das da Gaben und Opfer sind... sind Themen, die durch diese Praxis durchdrungen und erkannt werden können.


What is the use of this retreat?

Its task is on one hand, to develop awareness for our usual intentions and on the other side to develop gratitude and as result of this training, to realize the need of generosity and obligingness for a possible existence within this internet realm, especially for virtuous people.
At a google retreat, you will soon find out, makes it necessary to use and share only what one has really gained and useable and the need to support other participate with this share.
After all it marks a possibility to gain right view, the first path factor to liberation of stress and especially the understanding, that there are teacher, there are gifts and sacrifices... are issues which can be penetrated within this practice.


Mit dem Training in Großzügigkeit, Dankbarkeit und Entsagung, arbeitet man den ganz groben Veruntrübungen, hier im Bereich der Gier entgegen.

With the training of generosity, gratitude and renunciation, one works against the blatant defilement's in the sphere of greed.

Programm

In dieser Zeit wäre es wünschenswert, so viel wie möglich über die Erfahrungen im Zuge der Einhaltung dieser Ausübung zu diskutieren wie auch das Thema im Detail aufzuarbeiten. Jeder ist dabei herzlich eingeladen daran aktiv teilzunehmen und all die Möglichkeiten hier zu nutzen.


Program

At this time it would be great to make as much as possible exchange of the task of this retreat as well as to share the experiences gained by observing, discuss them and work on them. Everybody is heartily invited to participate actively and to use all possibilities given here.


Dauer des Retreats

Das 1. Dhamma Vinaya Vihara Google-Retreat beginnt mit 25.12.2013 und dauert bis 1.1.2014.
Wer den Nutzen daraus erkannt hat und sich gewillt und im Stande fühlt, dieses auch weiter fortzusetzen, ist dazu freudig ermutigt und wird gerne unterstützt.


Duration of the retreat

The 1. Dhamma Vinaya Vihara Google-Retreat starts at 25.12.2013 and lasts till 1.1.2014.
Who ever has realized the benefit of it and is willing and feels fit to continue this further is joyful invited and supported.


Hilfe und Unterstützung

Für die Dauer des Retreats, so sie teilnehmen, sollten Sie in ihrem Avatartext "google-Retreat" anführen (siehe Benutzereinstellungen >> Forumsprofil >> Persönlicher Text), da damit die anderen wissen, daß sie vom Nehmen was nicht gegeben ist, versuchen abzustehen und Gelegenheit haben, ihnen Zuvorkommend Unterstützung zu geben.

Jene, die ein email-Konto haben möchte, daß ihnen etwas Abstand von den gewöhnlichen Gebräuchen gibt, mögen dieses bitte äußern. Gerne richten wir ein sangham.net emailkonto für diese Zeit aber auch länger ein.


Help and support

For the time of the retreat, if you participate, it would be good to mark "google Retreat" under your avatar (see user settings ,>> forum profil >> personal text). So it is possible for others to know that you train your self in abstaining and a depended of their support. With it they are able to support within by obligingness.

Those who like to have an email account, to be able to abstain form usual use of third part tools, are kindly invited to let it be known. We are honored to support you with such for the time of the retreat but also for a longer time.


Viel Freude mit dieser Möglichkeit und Einladung!

Anumodana!


Much joy with this possibility and the invitation!

Anumodana!


 :-*



Recommend essays/Empfohlene Aufsätze:
Generosity: The Inward Dimension - Großzügigkeit: Die innere Dimension , Nina Van Grokum
Aufrecht in Mitten des Unaufrichtigen gehen - Walking Even Amidst the Uneven , Ven. Bhikkhu Bodhi
Giving, taking and the "new" world - Geben, nehmen und die „neue“ Welt , jb
Der richtige Blickwinkel: Es ist niemals falsch - The Right Angle: It’s Never Wrong , Ven. Luang Por Liam Thitadhammo
This post and Content has come to be by Dhamma-Dana and so is given as it       Dhamma-Dana: Johann

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Johann

October 17, 2018, 06:01:23 PM
May all spend meritorious/good and higher last hours of this Sila-day.

Sokh chomreoun (may well being be developed [by everyone])
 

Johann

October 16, 2018, 03:15:10 PM
Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 12, 2018, 04:13:16 PM
Good to see Nyom Norum.
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Maybe of support for lasting satifaction: Seeds of Becoming .
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
When ever love arises, dislike will be it's end. Who ever seeks out for friends, will get his enemy. Why? Because not willing to leave home. May wanderer gus find the way to never return. Mudita

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:58 AM
Vandami.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:22 AM
Nevertheless my courage of active participation  has been fallen down. Anyway I hope to come time to time.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam khamata me bhante.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:37:11 AM
Okasa bhante,

I didn't accepted Dymitros invitation to start a Theravada forum, because I thought this forum is pure Theravada. Now I regret about it, yet think this forum is comparatively good.  I learnt many valuable things from you and grateful to you. Nevertheless my courage of active partici
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 02:20:29 AM
What ever one searches for, that he/she will find. Less are those seeing the nature of combined thing, leaving home and go beyond Maras domain.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:45:18 PM
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:39:12 PM
When one is born in outer regions ... your island has drifted away.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:30:00 PM
macchariya, a boarder hard to cross to the middle way, abounding home, sakayaditthi, doubt and rituals.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
However much one say, West is West, East is East.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
Where ever there is east, there is west. And vici versa. Where ever there is nama, there is rupa. Where ever one seeks for a home, there he will suffer.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:03:31 PM
West is West

gus

October 06, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
belief of kamma, gratitude, independence, honesty, devotion : These are hard to find in people
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Again, a latin proverb mit be useful: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi , patisota is always harmful if not just one own defilements or having a proper stand to help. Sota is the virtue required to resist in borderlands.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:41:52 AM
If in a borderland it's better to simply serve and support the Sangha. It's not smart to seek for other householders to nurish on traced imperfections of something required to uphold, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 04:54:48 AM
Okasa, happy to hear such things reagarding kamma. Many monks I have met don't directly speak about kamma because they have been tired after practicing some years and now bit relaxed.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:17:26 AM
Such can be total kusala and total akusala or simply defuse. Set your mind right and be mindful, that nothing will be of harm for yourself and others.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:15:27 AM
There is nothing not permitted. Merits or demerits are the actors responsibility. One is full in charge of ones action in this Domain here, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 03:50:00 AM
Bhante, is it permitted to ask questions or post things on behalf of other/future people ?

gus

October 05, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
We have been advised like this:
"No matter however much monks reject you,
Never leave the place."
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
It's good when wanderer gus takes a rest, turns to a lonly place, enjoys the merits done and find a good place for his mind and fixes possible open wholes when clear where he likes to go some hours later.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
Wanderer Gus knows how foolish this statement is. That is not the way to get out of a hole.

gus

October 05, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
okasa,
falling down from a status is suffering.
So, if I could stay in the hell-being status from the beginning, then no suffering.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:33:20 AM
From a state of a young Bhikkhu equal tradition...to householder... ...asura (now) on the border to animal, peta, hell-state. It can go quick if not having firm nissaya.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
Aniccam vatta samsara...

gus

October 05, 2018, 06:56:28 AM
Evolution:
Bhante subhuti =>
Upasaka gus =>
Deva gus =>
Asura gus.

In the future:
Asura gus =>
Peta gus =>
Animal gus =>
Hell-being gus ???

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:51:42 AM
Okasa, I think bhante thinks me as a patriot because of some content of my posts. But it is not.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 05:41:33 AM
What ever one likes to, not touched like the moon, does not mean to praise what is blameworthy and vici-versa and to have metta not to let people run into hell if ways can be pointed out. Yet other choices at least are their. Be quick, your island drifts away!

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:34:15 AM
Okasa,
As long as I don't do exactly what you say, I think I'll not be able to make you happy or satisfied.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
If thinking that this is for sure, if delighting in believing that connected things are a refuge and give space to rest: one may do so. Ones own choice. When ever one stops to nurish inwardly, ouwardly path and fruits die. Good as well as bad.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:28:51 AM
If bhante didn't let the weak person to live in avatar/deva mode, then he will lose both openness and connection. Up to now I have secured at least the connection.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
Yet I appreciate and pay vandana for your care and advice on openness.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
Please forgive me  bhante if I have made you tired. I don't like to accumulate akusala by making a monk tired in expecting a naughty chicken to be a good duck.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam Khamtu me bhante!
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:07:06 AM
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Differnt asked "why is Bhante not happy, dwell not in outwardly seeming being not touched?" Because it would not only confirm and show sign of aggreement of unwise acts, but also very incompassionate and cruel. Also place for suspecting corrupt ways and invite others to follow the comfortable dwelli
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:54:12 AM
No one is able to make my person angry, which does not mean that he would not appear angry so to possible prevent from doing what is not conductive for liberation, even lead in lower states. Nothing to worry, but also no invitation to test it foolish since it could hurt one self and others.

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:46:39 AM
Okasa bhante, Isn't there at least single way to stay anonymous without making you angry?
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
corr: "it's, the domain of the Noble Ones, is nobody's personal domain" there are no wards around fields for merits and no tickets to pay
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
What ever Deva gus feels inspired. It's oneones personal domain and all giving is good in the distance of the brigh cool moon. One should not fear, should not be shy to do what is good and praised by the wise but be quick!

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Bhante, is that mean you don't like me to talk about higher subjects and like to talk about basics only?
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:02:12 AM
It would be more than good if teaching others a lot on the topic vandami (paying respect) and khamatu (asking for forgiviness) since unknown and not practiced here around this field of merits in compassion to former relatives, Deva gus.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
...total no problem to dwell and lay down in the cool shadow to heal at all and no need to ask for pardon when intended for progressing and to get fit for the battles so hard to win.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
But they would not feed them in ways which might look as nurishing relations for wordly sake directly, for people not understanding would think "look, he is herding, carry for his cattle, he wasts the gift of the land, the heritage of the Gems for his becoming and own gain. Understood? Total no prob
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
Never would people of integrity send away pets, petas or sick, for they are not able to change for now but possible can gain of what they need to change.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
If, just to think about, one lives deliberatly with sign showing a rejection of firm trust in kamma, one lives in nurishing the danger of falling into grave wrong views and give ways that others follow what is improper to do. Just to reflect. How ever wishing to do.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:36:03 AM
What ever one does, holds as refuge or abounds, either good or bad refuge, one does for one self. Ones own choices, ones own fruits, ones own limitations, hindrences.

gus

October 04, 2018, 09:28:15 AM
Khamatu me bhante!
My previous  post was this.
"Please forgive me and give birth to kindness ao as to let me live here anonymous "

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