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Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 19 20:29:34
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2020 Jan 19 15:01:46
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2020 Jan 19 10:20:11
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 19 10:03:16
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 18 08:14:54
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 18 05:57:52
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Sila day

2020 Jan 17 19:19:18
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:37:01
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:14:15
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 17 13:39:36
Sophorn: Many greetings to everyone,

2020 Jan 17 13:39:19
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2020 Jan 17 10:29:19
Johann: "so, now I go up and clear the area a little, make some merits, and I will not share my merits, with anybody..."  ^-^

2020 Jan 17 08:49:11
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2020 Jan 17 08:45:08
Chanroth: សូមលាហើយ

2020 Jan 17 08:33:16
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 17 06:56:27
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Uposatha, those observing it today.

2020 Jan 17 06:45:45
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 17 06:44:49
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 16 23:01:31
Moritz: Mr. Lew _/\_

2020 Jan 15 14:16:00
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:15:29
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:12:01
Johann: Nyom

2020 Jan 15 10:24:02
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:21:50
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:11:56
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:22:36
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:04:02
Moritz: _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:34:30
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:31:02
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, may happiness come to fullfillment, all

2020 Jan 12 21:27:15
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Visitor _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:26:54
Cheav Villa:  Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:26:06
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:21
Moritz: Visitor _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:09
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:59
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:50
Johann: Good on working isn't a bad reservation. Sokh chomreoun

2020 Jan 12 21:16:12
Cheav Villa: I kana in working conditions in the ministry  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 17:24:45
Johann: How is Nyom Villa doing? Seems as if more reserved

2020 Jan 11 21:30:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 21:27:10
Johann: On the other side it's just visible for Aramika, so also fine to leave it as it is.

2020 Jan 11 21:18:06
Johann: but possible good to change it, since looking of course strange

2020 Jan 11 21:17:02
Johann: The visitor account, since enail needed, has Atmas email, yes. Nothing wrong, Nyom.

2020 Jan 11 21:10:13
Cheav Villa: Mr. Visitor is using Bhante mail on Sangham ^-^ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 17:28:39
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 11 17:19:29
Johann: Well then. Mudita. And to use old account is also no problem, or a new one.

2020 Jan 11 17:13:25
Visitor:  *sgift* Will return soon. will share one from lot.  :) Stay healthy. Be happy.

2020 Jan 11 17:06:13
Johann: Sure, why not? An also sure that Atma will try what ever possible that Nyom-Deva would take on existance where Dhamma can completely comprehended. My Nyom do as he feels fit and inspired.

2020 Jan 11 17:03:02
Visitor: For I am out of community and practice to be independent too -- decided when couldn't find Gem(liberated one, buddha, venerable).

2020 Jan 11 17:00:13
Visitor: If I share one of those practices, will uncle allow that? Will uncle give way to me to give as a 'Visitor'? Even when it's out of community.

2020 Jan 11 16:57:53
Johann: It's importand to see that liberation is possible, and people having gained independency are met = Savaka Sangha

2020 Jan 11 16:55:26
Johann: It's importand, aside of the deva-messangers, birth, sickness, aging death, to meet the Buddha, Arahat, Samana, so that real Saddha may arise. Books hardly can provide such "it's not just a story"

2020 Jan 11 16:50:04
Visitor: Practice leads to experience -coming slowly-2 me already. Did uncle find any Gems(Ven. Buddha) to associate with?

2020 Jan 11 16:45:42
Johann: Only by practicing and association with the Gems can Dhamma be gained. Consuming 1000 book wouldn't help

2020 Jan 11 16:43:02
Johann: What does one, seeing his decay, keep him from sharing?

2020 Jan 11 16:41:31
Johann: Giving ways to let others give is also a-maccariya

2020 Jan 11 16:39:42
Johann: And books are lasting? Sharing about oldage, sickness and death is teaching the 1 Noble truth very real, or?

2020 Jan 11 16:35:58
Visitor: What does old uncle want to offer when he is also impermanent? Dhamma-it's already in books! Experience-it will come soon to me too.

2020 Jan 11 16:30:29
Johann: If needing something, just let it be known (any language

2020 Jan 11 16:29:50
Johann: Nyom unknown

2020 Jan 11 16:28:47
Visitor:  *thumb* :-\ :( ;-) *gift*

2020 Jan 11 08:13:55
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 11 08:11:25
Moritz: Oh, I just wanted to write something to you, Bong Villa. But now have to go, driving taxi. ^-^ Later. _/\_ Chom reap leah

2020 Jan 11 08:05:56
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 07:46:49
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 10 19:57:45
Johann: Bhante

2020 Jan 10 19:37:57
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 10 16:11:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 12:07:13
Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom

2020 Jan 10 11:34:53
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 10 11:08:47
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 10 11:00:22
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 06:05:50
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 05:02:29
Johann: May those keeping the full moon Uposatha today, spend an auspicious time engaged in merits

2020 Jan 09 20:17:28
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 20:07:28
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 18:57:51
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Those who have confidence in the Awakened One have confidence in what is supreme; and for those with confidence in the supreme, supreme is the result.

2020 Jan 09 17:33:14
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 16:13:20
Johann: No problem at all.

2020 Jan 09 16:12:52
Johann: Atma wrote: Oh, master Moritz celebrates his Birthday today. And if remembering right, just one day before Mastress Sophorn.

2020 Jan 09 16:11:21
Johann:  :)

2020 Jan 09 16:10:58
Johann: oh that is bad: Nyom needs to cite Thor Twai bpngum 5 times

2020 Jan 09 16:09:02
Cheav Villa: I kana sorry for deleted <.I.> _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 16:05:44
Cheav Villa: All the best wishes to you Master Moritz  _/\_ :D

2020 Jan 09 08:29:01
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 07:08:24
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Sadhu

2020 Jan 09 06:16:07
Johann: A blessed Uposatha those who maintain it today

2020 Jan 09 04:50:31
Khemakumara: Nyom

2020 Jan 08 22:06:08
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Jan 08 21:45:09
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 08 20:55:46
Khemakumara: Nyom

2020 Jan 08 20:47:42
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 08 18:48:15
Johann: Bhante

2020 Jan 08 18:17:17
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 08 15:14:05
Johann: Nyom

2020 Jan 08 14:02:20
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 08 08:04:30
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 07 21:10:49
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2020 Jan 07 21:05:36
saddhamma: I hope, Bhante Johann has regained some strength and that Bhante's health is improving.

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Author Topic: Not take on controll but possibility to give  (Read 126 times)

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Not take on controll but possibility to give
« on: January 13, 2020, 10:04:40 AM »
Not so into Dhamma, being touched by lack or suffering of others, becoming attached, take things or beings for our own, it's common and usual to desire to maintain dear things and one tries to help.

Actually such is mostly an undertaking of trying to take control over thinks which are actually not under ones control, but a net of individual kamma, and conditions.

Of course, the more related to each other, the more similar tendecies, the more possibilities of contributions and giving are there, but at least there are just possibilities to give of which may be a little under ones control.

This morning there was a smell of sickness and death in the cave as Atma woke up. First not knowing the cause, Atma later found a large slug lying on the bed. Having fallen down it happened that a large part of the snail shell was broken away and it's entrails hug outside while wriggling in pain.

The very fist reaction is usually kind of aversion incl. not to be involved in sufferings reallity. On one hand one likes to help, on the other one likes to avoid the 1. Noble truth, bad signs, smells, touches...

"It will eventually die. Where and how to put most helpful to let the progress run it's way". In moder world and with higher beings, people would call ambulance and maybe donate some and then walk on.

May 1000 other beings await the meal of an eatable snail.

Having not found any place possible providing more ease end and breaking off of the body, scotch came to mind. Having some, Atma carefully batched the brocken part on the shell, covering the vuluntary parts, and the placed it then on a less growded place... fast would hundreds of ants take on what can be taken on, bond to this livelihood, to still their pain as well...

..looking some hours later it seems that it at least could turn back into the shell and rests with lesser pains.

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Re: Not take on controll but possibility to give
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2020, 05:42:07 PM »
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Re: Not take on controll but possibility to give
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Re: Not take on controll but possibility to give
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2020, 07:04:42 PM »
If reflecting that beings are heir of their actions, what they (incl. oneself if not liberated) do will fall back on them isn't meant to neglegt possibilities of giving, especially at the five right times.

That's the reason, that's the cause for oneself as well, that one might help (yet unknown where and when).

It's really good to often think on how many beings around, strating with ones parents, sacrificed a lot where they could have made the opposite as well. Material things are actually a small part, thinking on how many beings could have harmed one, sometimes even understandable.

It's total nonsens and leads just to bad mind states, as soon as one starts to seek such as justice, someting general valid, aside of good thoughts, speech, deeds will bear fruits for one, bad and unwise as well.

So the greatest gift to gife is Dhamma, inspiring to generosity, care, virtue and renouncing. There isn't a gift, given or received, higher and for long lasting happiness. Yet, even if skilled in Dhamma, by deeds and meanings, only less, very less, could receive it, and possible take on it.

And even if there is great Bound, like between parents and child, teacher and devoted disciples, the Buddha and his most devoted Monks, it still, at least, remains like to batch a broken shell of a snail.

Beings are hire of their deeds, so it's good to value one blessed sitiation and use it for further large steps to liberation instead of trying to even take on controll of other beings Khandhas.

It's taking form, feeling, formations, perceptions consciousness as ones own, that hinders one of giving, letting go, to be able to help without any selfinterest in this world.

It's not said, that also a layman could not act like the moon also in his sphere, never taking side and just teach and do what is praisworthy to do: SN 16.3: Candūpama Sutta — Comparable to the Moon .

Ones main task, to follow after, if wise, is laying down the debt toward, the world, the sense and to head upwardly, leaving that what so uncountable being are steady waiting for, behind. The lighter one raft, yet it wouldn't work without, the easier to get through the difficult passages, and once arrived on the other shore, even of ones raft one can let go.
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Re: Not take on controll but possibility to give
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Re: Not take on controll but possibility to give
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2020, 11:57:55 AM »
What is one able to give? What's yours? If there havn't been others suffering either voluntary or even forces, what is one able to give.

If there hasn't been one giving some scotch, how could another batch the shell of a snail.

There are so many conditions, many individual intentions, that it's hard to ever trace the line.

Or doing merits. People think it's easy, but it isn't, since there are many around who wouldn't like one to make good.

Some days ago, as a group came up, Atma asked them "Who is coming up here", and the leader said "One tourist bus from Kampong Speu".

"Don't say so, don't say so. Goodness, skilful intention, had brought it up till here."

How did you come up here, and how many, as far as remembering, had given conditions for such steps, how often didn't you take on, how often was something wast to increase bond to low.

It's truly hard to know ones own purity of mind, and nearly impossible to know that of others. But again, what ever received can be used to purify ones mind, step by step.

While it's good to rejoice with ones own goodness, it's importand to know that one is just a chain of the goodness, of good intenions, derived from real giver, those liberal "being" one should not hesitate to become equal them.
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Re: Not take on controll but possibility to give
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2020, 09:22:53 PM »
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