Posted by: Vila
« on: January 04, 2020, 11:29:06 PM »Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu 
Herzlich Willkommen! A warm welcome! _()_
News:
Another day, another possibility. We don't know what tomorrow might be. _()_
Ein neuer Tag, wieder eine Möglichkeit. Wir wissen nicht was morgen sein wird. _()_
ថ្ងៃ ថ្មី មួូយ ជា ឳកាស ថ្មី មួយ ទៀត។ យើង មិន អាច ដឹង មុន នូវ អ្វី ដែល នឹង កើតឡើង ថ្ងៃ ស្អែក
"Dhammo have rakkhati dammacāriṁ"
"N'atthi santi param sukham"
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 04, 2020, 11:07:48 PM »Sadhu, Sadhu!
Even if there are no Noble Ones in a Sangha, it nevertheless gives the possibility to perceive right.
Why is that? Because it increases wrong view and no body would perceive an Arahat or Noble One as well.
Dhamma is then no more something given, but taken. The Nissaya toward the Tripple Gems is brocken and there will be no more than low merits, no purification on one side and no more on both sides. Just perceiveable worldling maybe, if even, conducting merely fruitless Dhamma.
This is the cause, this is the reason, why since old times Khmer people used to give what ever Dhammic book received, back to the Sangha (where they always can ask for it again).
Even if there are no Noble Ones in a Sangha, it nevertheless gives the possibility to perceive right.
Why is that? Because it increases wrong view and no body would perceive an Arahat or Noble One as well.
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa
There is the case where a certain person is covetous. He covets the belongings of others, thinking, 'O, that what belongs to others would be mine!' ...He has wrong view, is warped in the way he sees things: 'There is nothing given, nothing offered, nothing sacrificed. There is no fruit or result of good or bad actions. There is no this world, no next world, no mother, no father, no spontaneously reborn beings; no brahmans or contemplatives who, faring rightly & practicing rightly, proclaim this world & the next after having directly known & realized it for themselves.' This is how one is made impure in three ways by mental action.
Dhamma is then no more something given, but taken. The Nissaya toward the Tripple Gems is brocken and there will be no more than low merits, no purification on one side and no more on both sides. Just perceiveable worldling maybe, if even, conducting merely fruitless Dhamma.
This is the cause, this is the reason, why since old times Khmer people used to give what ever Dhammic book received, back to the Sangha (where they always can ask for it again).
Posted by: Vila
« on: January 04, 2020, 10:52:43 PM »Kana Bhante
For only The lay people followed the Sangha domain uphhold by the Savaka Sangha can derived and lead to path of fruit.
If nurishing on public and common domains the increase Upanissaya toward Samsara going on..
For only The lay people followed the Sangha domain uphhold by the Savaka Sangha can derived and lead to path of fruit.
If nurishing on public and common domains the increase Upanissaya toward Samsara going on..
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 04, 2020, 10:37:21 PM »Sadhu! Because of lived conduct.
What about the lay people? Can the Dhamma in public domain, as common stuff, uphold a Dhammic lay disciple-ship? Can Dhamma derived from common lead to path or fruits?
With whom or what does on increase Upanissaya if nurishing on public and common domains?
What about the lay people? Can the Dhamma in public domain, as common stuff, uphold a Dhammic lay disciple-ship? Can Dhamma derived from common lead to path or fruits?
With whom or what does on increase Upanissaya if nurishing on public and common domains?
Posted by: Vila
« on: January 04, 2020, 10:29:59 PM » I Kana think of only the Sangha domain could uphold the Sangha. because of the Vinaya only.
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 04, 2020, 10:18:57 PM »Could public domain or common domain uphold the Sangha? If yes, why? If no, why?
Posted by: Vila
« on: January 04, 2020, 10:15:14 PM » Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 04, 2020, 10:14:19 PM »But if in common and public domain, the common and public domain could uphold the Sangha, or?
Posted by: Vila
« on: January 04, 2020, 10:11:16 PM »Kana Bhante
The Dhamma is proper for the Sangha domain, Appropriateb to the Sangha who uphold the discipline.
The Dhamma is proper for the Sangha domain, Appropriateb to the Sangha who uphold the discipline.
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 04, 2020, 08:52:08 PM »What do you think?
And what do you think has happened if the Dhamma is then totally in common and public domain?
And what do you think has happened if the Dhamma is then totally in common and public domain?