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Posted by: Moritz
« on: January 17, 2020, 06:13:53 AM »

Yesterday I gave away our dinner tomato to a gardener. In that tomato and the giving are the seeds for a better life for him and his family beyond the eating. Other householders treat this man unkindly, demanding more of his services without offering to pay more. It is a disease, this asking for more. The cure is sharing. Let us not hug the alms bowl. Let us share what is given and received.

Mr. Lew karl_lew _/\_

Just in case interested: There is, as a "hidden" part of this monastery, also a "supporter" area.
It is for matters where monastics should not get involved, for example for issues dealing with money and things to organize between laypeople.
It can be accessed by adding the user group of "Supporter". (User group settings for oneself can be managed here , when logged in. There, under "additional member groups", one can then add "Supporter", for example, if wishing to access).
Now at the moment just a topic came up in regard of possible support for Pou Chanroth's livelihood and was moved there. So just to let you know, in case of being interested.
Although sure not easy to understand all in detail between people who speak different languages and live different lives and have different opinions about each other, some basic principles remain always simple . :) ;-)

_/\_
Posted by: karl_lew
« on: January 16, 2020, 11:06:39 PM »

Yesterday I gave away our dinner tomato to a gardener. In that tomato and the giving are the seeds for a better life for him and his family beyond the eating. Other householders treat this man unkindly, demanding more of his services without offering to pay more. It is a disease, this asking for more. The cure is sharing. Let us not hug the alms bowl. Let us share what is given and received.
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 16, 2020, 08:59:31 PM »

To bring another perspective into, maybe easier to take. Once my person dwelled at Wat Aryum, next Bhante Indannano , he often used to provoke, since my person lived "totally" independent from others, keeping tudangas very strict. To do so Bhante stood on the way out for alms, doing like huging beloved an alms-bowl, twisting the body, saying "oh, my dear alms-bowl, oh my dear alms-bowl". Such provocations may itch, but it's really helpful in regard of the danger of pride over ones virtues or livelihood or believes to be independent while still craving after food. Sure, often such provucations are lesser great compassion, but what ever kind of stand-battle. Yet, even so, one can use such imputs, even if not well meant. Not to discourage in regard of perfection of virtue, but to remember that there is still perfection in concentration, perfection in wisdom, and then, of which one could then rest rightful selfsatisfied, liberation: an encouragement not to get stuck in pipes and tomatos, missing the leaving train.

Althought it as well gives defilements all kind of ways to act corrupt, the Maha Saropama Sutta: The Longer Heartwood-simile Discourse is a proper blessed reading here.

...there one comes to speak on tomatos, pipes and groundlessness and then gets urged to just use it to walk on and be careful on delight as long as not gained the heart wood.
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 16, 2020, 08:03:01 PM »

Thank you so much for being a wonderful crazy man who plants in pipes!

Good work. I have to get my own pipes ready for spring.

Happy planting!

Sounds nice at first place, but modern people with some merits, living in a all arround organized place, are not so aware of what it takes to walk a different way. Once an American Mahayana-monks in Cambodia (ever eager to help since how many decades, Grandfather Vira Avalokita ) wisely reflected (yet still could lay it aside till today), sure from his own beginner-faults: "don't ever send the poor out for a fight for you ideas". Something of which modern society makes use everywhere in the world to destroy old sociaties.

At least, one should not forget that people mostly trust foreign exiting more and mistrust those of whoms kind they know. Only if leader would guide in certain direction, folk follows, for at large they wouldn't know what and why, but simply like to eat and gain as much as possible.

Imagen if Nyom karl_lew wouldn't have find likeminded, support, at least of his wife, no approve at all, and yet it's merely a hobby. Most of this world isn't like that at all but a daily struggle.

That doesn't mean that supporting each other in good ways isn't good, but as in the other topic, as soon as salting it with certain pride and revolution flavors, it can be most harmful by those on the field.

Thought it's good if Nyom tries to leave comfortable zone a little (yet it's not thought for debenefit at all), the palace, to get the seriously of dependency on food more known.

Atma trusts that Nyom can take it right, patiently as he conducts, but not with equanimity but wise judgements all the time.

Like Nyom would become lesser and lesser welcome on other places, where virtue isn't placed before gain, while dwelling here, the same works even much more intensive, yet possible not free and depending on groups with less care.

If walking another way it's often a tiny refuge one has, a friend, teacher... and of course there is much love and gratitude. Just two hours ago there was an angry scream of someone, sounding like: "Do not slander my teacher".

People bond, not leaving forward, do not wait anything else to find justification why they didn't follow a better. Such can lead even to fights, death, yes even wars. Less beings are capable and have conditions to walk upwardly, not to speak of those who could do it broad supported and with ease.

Nothing grows without ground, condition, Nissaya, and association is the most importand outwardly condition, one looking best possible after not taking side but simply call the Dhamma again and again to mind.
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 16, 2020, 09:38:30 AM »

Aramika   *

Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "Cacao " eröffnet, dem angehäng.
One or more posts have been cut out of this topic here. A new topic, based on it, has been created as "Cacao " or attached there.
Posted by: karl_lew
« on: January 16, 2020, 01:14:03 AM »

Thank you so much for being a wonderful crazy man who plants in pipes!

Good work. I have to get my own pipes ready for spring.

Happy planting!
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 15, 2020, 09:58:24 AM »

[reflections of Upasaka Chanroth :] "...my family and really all villagers have already declared my person of being crazy. 'He doesn't work, doesn't cut wood, doesn't farming, doesn't drink, join pleasures, plants forest trees instead of fruits, plants chocolate trees, has no land, and now he plants in pipes'... Explaining the benefits to my wife: 'No fighting other beings, much better hygiene and health, not a little that brudensome work as doing on soil, no need to fight about land, no need to cut forest...', but she still does not understand.
Posted by: Chanroth
« on: January 15, 2020, 08:47:19 AM »

បាទ អគុណបងប្រុស

I value/be grateful of the guṇa (giving, goodness), older brother.

* Johann : transl. draft added.
Posted by: karl_lew
« on: January 14, 2020, 11:19:39 PM »

Productivity is a dead end. It leads to massive waste.

Yes. Aluminum foil is relatively expensive. An old piece of cardboard works just fine to shield the pipe from sun and heat.

I forgot to mention that I also recommend vermicompost in the netpots. This recycles our waste into healthy food for the plants. Please do not use fancy rock wool or clay balls. They are expensive and wasteful. Vermicompost is nature's way to bring life out of death.  Using vermicompost in netpots is gentler on the plants and does not require transplanting.  I use cheap cloth to hold the soil in the 3-inch netpot so that it does not fall into the nutrients. In this simple way I can grow tomatoes.

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* Johann : attachment reorganized
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 13, 2020, 12:08:39 PM »

Nyom Chanroth got already informed about light and algae, experimented already (comparisons, light, no light and algae) with cover by old cartoon and "finally" found some color to paint. Such as aluminum foil are either easy avaliable (aside of capital) nor cheap. Here people are used to use avaliable around (such as shops, small, exist maybe since10 year here, in district towns), Nyom karl_lew , and observe and tests things careful.
He told that hydroponics are already very popular under people knowing it here and many foreigners are undertaking "easy" farming, since a huge market and traditional Khmer aren't used of out-of-season planting. But of course this branch is connected with a large tool and equipment industry (making the over all effect pointless again, and nurish global heat/pain).

So there is actually much to learn from Khmers (Khema) yet not easy to grasp if focus is on productivity.

* Johann : learning how to use and access, he would now get a mention email when using @Name , since not easy to oversee full of foreign script.

To get an impression: https://m.facebook.com/HydroponicsInCambodia
http://cambodiafresh.com

(Yet it's an elite thing. 95% will, wouldn't have access for now)
Posted by: karl_lew
« on: January 13, 2020, 11:21:46 AM »

The plastic cup idea is brilliant!

To prevent algae growth, keep light away from cups. Aluminum foil tape works, or whatever you can think of. Algae competes with plants for food and oxygen.
Posted by: Chanroth
« on: January 12, 2020, 10:22:08 AM »

ស្ពៃចង្កឹះ

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Posted by: Chanroth
« on: January 10, 2020, 08:38:45 AM »

(first little system, incl. a 1$ pump, with avaliable material is working)

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(one has to add that he hasn't any technical education and might had gone to school till grade 4 or 5)
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 10, 2020, 04:32:51 AM »

Aramika   *

Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "Rosel_tonic " eröffnet, dem angehäng.
One or more posts have been cut out of this topic here. A new topic, based on it, has been created as "Rosel_tonic " or attached there.
Posted by: Chanroth
« on: January 09, 2020, 11:23:44 PM »