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Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: August 25, 2018, 10:02:46 AM »

Actually the fist contact gave rise to a lot of doubt, since it gave much reason that my person maybe did something which is not really wished, assuming that the gift on dhammatalks.org are first over dedicated. for the Sublime Sangha and it follower.

So my person thought, better then to build on assumings whould be to make things clear. In the moring, touched by malaria attack a little, my person checked if the bodily conditions would allow to let go of food another day to make a call in the wished hour. Then my person thought, "it's better to walk for alms, and if things go in certain way's, I will be back quickly and match the time."
So my person prepared his robes and took his bowl, then went down. Just this moment 3 fire-wood collector came up the hill. (something never hapens usually, that peoplehave the luck to meet my person on alms in the forest, and not fail to get gift accepted if thinking it would be taken at the dwelling). Having offered some rice, a little side dish an a bottle of water, having received a talk on Dhamma, delighted they returned to their work and my person had only a few meters back for today and another chance to call.

Ven. Tan Peter received the call. Obiviously not used to kind greatings and "zuvorkommenheiten", stressed like the people in call-centers, and my person as well ("how can I speak that he is not burdened and get's the point easy") my person started another time.

First making confession that my person took the teachings in trust and further dedicated them, as well as translations to the Sangha, after he could not make clear to whom their are dedicated but seeked refuge in a housholders way of "copyrights" and that this teachings are in the domain by Ven. Thanissaro and nothing further.

Then my person, after Ven. Than Peter started to understand that there have been dedicatiins and sacrifices made, my person started to offer, Sanghadana of the eight directions (asking the Sangha of wat Metta to acceot it for the Sangha at large) the translation incl. sangham.net, zugangzureinsicht.org, accesstoinsight.eu incl. all the many gifts received and maintained here for the Sangha of the eight direction. Not so used in using telefon, my person tried to make it formal (althought noting that he would not have the patient). Having made the declaration the fist time, just wanted to repeat it, Ven. Peter breaked into by asking "So you have made translations... you like to give..." Turning back to try to explain what, why, how... Ven. Sir then made the suggestion to prepair all in and order and then give it. Asking again of how my person would be able to give, to hand it over, the loop started again. Generously he gave a short thought of how he could step out of usuals, letter is not possible, email is only used for personal things, telefon is reserved to receive laypeople and overbooked... So he listened shortly and came to understand that my persons only dwelling reachable in modern worlds is sangham.net and that he is given and invited to register and make use of all and would find a possibility to understand the huge dedication it's amout and use.

Ven. Sir was a little introduced about al things and how they arouse, mostly short before Dhamma goodness and it's embodies died and about the huge amout of gifts dedicated for the Sangha of the eight directions.

He also said that their German translations-team dissolved (my person offered, saying that his skills are actually not great in regard of formal language) but that Ven. Thanissaro has a female disciple.

Getting more stressed since a lot of incoming calls have been rejected, Ven. Peter said that he will take a look at sangham.net and that he now needs to finish because many try to call.

Thinking that it's not proper to try it another time in a very modern conventional way and that it s a fact that those ways need to be walked toeach those caught in modern worlds, it is possible needed and required, like my person had told many many times, that the monastery helpers here, the devoted giver and server, take on another time the effort to hand it over if they wish.

For it's not at all my person's intention to take something or use something on which people in the world maintain their livelihood, not really dedicated for the three Juwels and to be pulked beyound.

Please feel not limited to act and do as you wish, for it's not really possible, very rare that two kinds of ancestor-ships would ever get in touch even if people have been very near related in the past.

Don't ever let macchariya overcome your mind and again, this counts fo every family, listening to their departing leaders: What dhammic leaders suggest .

Please be also aware that if someoe has become a "King", it natural to be sourrounded not only by wise and devoted minister and servants but also often the opposite.

And again, things do not come by it's own or wet well naturally by it's own, but havegneed causes, need sacrifices and require proper effort to appear.

Don't forget, it's not just a "normal" gift you prepeared here, just think on how less monasteries or real Dhamma-Dana gifts actually exist in this world in accordiance of the Dhamma and Vinaya and how less has not been alread fallen into sg13, how less are willing to change their ways, how less have found firm faith and real refuge in the Gems.

And no, it's not right if someone says that the Buddha just suggests when asked "Where should a gift been given", to just leave it up to once defiled mood, but if there is a chance, the only real benifical field of merits, for release, should be pointed out and such by nature is and can never be of personal interessed having left the lower fetters already beyond.

Anumodana!

and mudita
Posted by: Moritz
« on: August 22, 2018, 09:50:29 AM »

Sadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu!

_/\_
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: August 22, 2018, 09:35:20 AM »

My person likes to share his attaining of a long time wish: to get one day in contact with Ven. Thanissaro, which was generously made possible by. Upasaka Moritz .

Having tried to leave a message for a possible call back, my person finally sacrificed his alms round and meal of today.

Just now finished the call, my person was lucky to meet Ven. Tan Peter, who generously organised to speak with Most Ven. Thanissaro, and finally got the leave "take care".

This release. of lasting Nissaya between (my person) and moder/western words tradition was surely hard and of cause foreseen, had given some "sadness" (of releasing kind) but also deep mudita for this tradition to be on the way to get at least united.

May what ever fault has been done by whom every be no cause of backward for the relation between those wich similar tendency, nourish and maintain each other till the time they gain freedom from any Nissaya for themselves.

May who ever in modern or western world take and have the chance to get right in touch with the most outstanding teacher and leader of this Nissaya.

May all beings take part on the merits done here by .many and may the Devas inform those who have not been touched yet.

May the Sangha of Savakas of the Buddha last long in this world and may those who had gained Nissaya in previous times be always reminded on the path even if it may has disappeared to present in spheres of the khandhas.

Anumodana!