Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: January 08, 2020, 12:49:52 PM »Touching lustful (enjoying bodily touch), even if with a corpse od a being ranges from dukkaṭa till sanghadisesa.
Doing favors by showing approve of certain relations or by being after affection, for gaining honor, acceptence and livelihood, lies in the area of Sanghadisesa 13, corrupting families.
Sharing gifts, given in faith, to people outside (aside of allowed), is in the area of dukkaṭa but can reach also till Sanghadisesa 13.
Watching and being amused on animals behaviour is a break of Brahmacariya.
Paying respect in many ways toward animals is a dukkaṭa and can lead till Sg 13 again.
Living with non Bhikkhus under one roof, especially with female, can lead till serious transgressions.
And that the case of such relation does not even end with repairable transgressions, but also can lead to be outside for a livetime shows the 1. downfall rule, as it has been also at the Buddhas times that certain relations gained a pick whish becomes a serious matter of the world.
Even in regard of the 4. downfall rule, it does matter. Just thing on how many Noble Ones suggestions are presented by displaying the "Sages" in near and intimacy relation with animals.
to display just some popular teachers in modern world. Actually the is not really one tradition which doesn't use this way of corrupt trade and it's surely not needed to desplay and point on more details... or speaking on even farming like extrems, keeping even tigers and efephants for trade and affections, livelihood.
That have been Vinaya aspects. My person guesses that there is no need, even no ways, that the matter in regard of highered virtue, mind, knowledge is cristal clear, and those inthe sphere know, while those still outside have "just" Vinaya to relay on, not aware of mental qualities.
Doing favors by showing approve of certain relations or by being after affection, for gaining honor, acceptence and livelihood, lies in the area of Sanghadisesa 13, corrupting families.
Sharing gifts, given in faith, to people outside (aside of allowed), is in the area of dukkaṭa but can reach also till Sanghadisesa 13.
Watching and being amused on animals behaviour is a break of Brahmacariya.
Paying respect in many ways toward animals is a dukkaṭa and can lead till Sg 13 again.
Living with non Bhikkhus under one roof, especially with female, can lead till serious transgressions.
And that the case of such relation does not even end with repairable transgressions, but also can lead to be outside for a livetime shows the 1. downfall rule, as it has been also at the Buddhas times that certain relations gained a pick whish becomes a serious matter of the world.
Even in regard of the 4. downfall rule, it does matter. Just thing on how many Noble Ones suggestions are presented by displaying the "Sages" in near and intimacy relation with animals.
to display just some popular teachers in modern world. Actually the is not really one tradition which doesn't use this way of corrupt trade and it's surely not needed to desplay and point on more details... or speaking on even farming like extrems, keeping even tigers and efephants for trade and affections, livelihood.
That have been Vinaya aspects. My person guesses that there is no need, even no ways, that the matter in regard of highered virtue, mind, knowledge is cristal clear, and those inthe sphere know, while those still outside have "just" Vinaya to relay on, not aware of mental qualities.
