Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 28, 2018, 08:44:40 PM
When coming across possible errors, typos... my person usually sends an email to the Admin of Dhammatalks .org
Since getting response only in cases when it is a matter of technical things, things possible in the sphere of a admin in technical regards, it could be that things will be not forwarded, but simply "executed as ordered", which woukd be possible a lose.
Since my person does not have any possibility to get directer in contact, it would be good, if having ways, speak telephone or mail, to forward it.
Of course, origin of it is not necessary to be mentioned, so how ever one feels.
Good if a forward is marked, and good if received is mentioned as well, in this thread.
And yes, it can be used by everyone, to have it somehow collected.
On the other hand, since in modern world is freedom to take, or at least having more to feeling, very present, it will be probable lesser "disturbing, and if Admin or the Ven. Ones, wish to make use of the gifts, they are stored here.
(Also for this case, it would be good to forward and hand over in the "wished way" it's proclamed to receive gifts, if one likes to take on the task)
Quote from: via email 28.3.2018
Valued DD-Admin team,
To make possible useful feedback not to much a burden, my person shared a topic on it, where you (and if the giving is forwarded to the Ven. Sirs and Sangha of Wat Metta) are alway invited and given to make use of the feedback as wished and to be as much as possible not disturbed.
http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,8474.0.html
" Dhammatalks - to be forwarded to the Ven. Sirs at Wat Metta"
It would be good if the gift and information would be forwarded to the Ven. Sirs.
Samana Johann
doing Forest monk in Cambodia
(You are welcome to visit sangham.net)
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 28, 2018, 08:52:55 PM
Quote from: via email 28.3.2018
Valued DD-Admin(s),
There seems to be a past-future confusion here:
Theorists about the Future
“There are some contemplatives & brahmans who are theorists about the future, who hold views about the past, who approve of various beliefs with reference to the future on 44 grounds. And with reference to what, coming from what, are these honorable contemplatives & brahmans theorists about the past who hold views about the future, who approve of various beliefs with reference to the future on 44 grounds?
Should be possible always "future" (like in Section of past)
Aparantakappikā
74. ‘‘Santi, bhikkhave, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā aparantakappikā aparantānudiṭṭhino, aparantaṃ ārabbha anekavihitāni adhimuttipadāni abhivadanti catucattārīsāya [catucattālīsāya (syā. kaṃ.)]vatthūhi. Te ca bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā kimāgamma kimārabbha aparantakappikā aparantānudiṭṭhino aparantaṃ ārabbha anekavihitāni adhimuttipadāni abhivadanti catucattārīsāya vatthūhi?
It would be good if been assisted to be forwarded to the Ven. Sirs.
Quote from: via email 27.3.2018
Valued DT administrator(s),
A part seems to be not translated, while it appears in DN2: " placing spells on spirits"
demons in a cemetery; placing spells on spirits; earth-skills
It would be probably good to prove this and maybe inform also honorable Bhante.
Quote from: via email 19.3.2018
Valued dhammatalks-assistent,
while translating into German my person had seen that there are certain "misstakes" with the < em > tag, at most having no imact aside of this passage:
"A feature common to almost all of the 62 theories is that they are phrased in terms of self and cosmos—in other words, in the same terms as what the Buddha describes as “becoming”(bhava): the act of taking on an identity in a particular world of experience (see The Paradox of Becoming). Because the craving that leads to further becoming is the cause of suffering and stress, the Buddha does not attempt to refute these theories by taking a different position framed in the same terms. Instead, he approaches and rejects these theories from another framework entirely: that of kamma and dependent co-arising (paṭicca samuppāda)."
My person saw that fpr example "the paradox of becoming" has no cross-link, thought it was as specific hint.
In regard of Introductions its maybe "easier" later on, to put it in a certain devision or using a certain style id in the < p > tag, if a certain software does not allow it to handle easily.
Please see it just as hints and in no way as a request or blame of so much gift. Mat it be of use for your aspirations in trying to make your gift perfect for those worthy to be given of special gifts.
To keep it detached from later offering of the translation and possible cause conflicts: sent before the whole work has been seen.
Mudita
Samana Johann
In the sentence " in a direct reference DN 1" seems that a "to" is missing "to DN 1"
"An <a href="/suttas/SN/SN22_81.html">SN 22:81[/url] points out, such..." probably "And SN..."
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 28, 2018, 09:20:31 PM
See also: Translation of the Mahavaga (by Ven. Khematto) - Übersetzung des Mahavaggas (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,8275.0.html) for current reports.
Quote from: via email 23.3.2018
...Not sure if Nyom received the current state of "issues" on Mahavagga, an copy and paste the Things my person came across, again asking humble (forward) to invite Ven. Khematto to help improve his auspicious gift.
Here the list from Translation of the Mahavaga (by Ven. Khematto) - Übersetzung des Mahavaggas
Mv II (No. = line in the html file)
- 468 na bhikkhave yathāparisāya pātimokkhaṁ uddisitabbaṁ sakāya sakāya parisāya yo uddiseyya āpatti dukkaṭassa.
Dukkata statement missing in translation.
- 818 sammatā sā sīmā saṅghena ticīvarena avippavāso
Sangha is missing in translation.
- 871 sammatā sā sīmā saṅghena ticīvarena avippavāso ṭhapetvā gāmañca gāmūpacārañca.
Sangha is missing in translation.
- athakho tesaṁ bhikkhūnaṁ etadahosi
one time translated "those monks" mostly "them"
- 1429, 1462 sopi evamāha na me bhante vattatīti.
here transl. as "I can't"
- 1822 and later: ...paṭijānāti lohituppādako paṭijānāti ubhatobyañjanako paṭijānāti aññassa dātabbā pārisuddhi.
sometimes "be, to be", sometimes "admits" which is a importand distinction
- 1886, 1813 :saṅghena tattha gantvā kammaṁ kātabbaṁ
“The transaction is to be carried out when the Saṅgha has gone there [i.e., to where the sick monk is].
then 1813: saṅghena tattha gantvā kammaṁ kātabbaṁ
here: should go, perform
- Uposatha, kammaṁ = Uposatha, transaction: sometimes Uposata is translated as Uposatha-Transaction, which might confuse.
- 1949 evañcetaṁ labhetha iccetaṁ kusalaṁ no ce labhetha te ñātakā bhikkhūhi evamassu vacanīyā iṅgha tumhe āyasmanto imaṁ bhikkhuṁ muhuttaṁ nissīmaṁ netha yāva saṅgho uposathaṁ karotīti.
and 1952 evañcetaṁ labhetha iccetaṁ kusalaṁ no ce labhetha na tveva vaggena saṅghena uposatho kātabbo kareyya ce āpatti dukkaṭassa.
seems to contoversal, following the translation, since if brought out of the territory, would a performed Uposatha not factional? Or, if translation is not unclear, should it be understood, that either when lay people are present or they removed him, but just if they let go out of then reason and leave, the Uposatha can be performed.
Here "again" transaction with Uposatha mixed, changed.
- 1943 te ñātakā bhikkhūhi evamassu vacanīyā iṅgha tumhe āyasmanto imaṁ bhikkhuṁ muhuttaṁ muñcatha yāvāyaṁ bhikkhu uposathaṁ karotīti.
It seems unseemingly that the Bhikkhus would adress the Bhikkhu by "your relative", rather then like elsewhere "this Bhikkhu"
Mv I (No. = line in the html file)
Mv I
1524 Typo: Then Yasa looked up at the the Blessed One.
2000 "If it’s not a burden for you, we would stay one night in your fire-hall." "we" seems not to fit to the context and occation.
General: Samana: sometimes, like in Sakyan-son Samanas, as Monks translated, most as contemplatives.
General: dhammavinaye is sometimes with Dhamma-Vinaya, sometimes with Dhamma and conduct translated. A translation Teaching/doctrine and conduct might be an alternativ if such is wished.
3751: "Then he should rub the water off the preceptor, give him his lower robe, and give him his outer robe.", outer Robe (dobble layer) seems to be unseeming, maybe "the robes" using "saṅghāṭik, as previous mentioned, in the case where robes are put together, is meant here as well.
3557: "Having dried the sitting cloth and sheet in the sun, he should clean them, shake them out, bring them back in, and lay them out them as they were laid out (before).", here it seems that singular is mixed with plural. Also, some similar passages sometimes include the sun in drying, here also "sheeting", som just have "dried".
3969: "Without having taken the preceptor’s leave, (the student) should not give an alms bowl to anyone, nor should he receive an alms bowl from that person.", is it sure that bowl not simply Almsfood is meant by "patta" here? Of corse it (almsfood) might be covered by "parikkhāro", later, and would bring the bowl into addition, or.... reading http://dsalsrv02.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.2:1:1825.pali , "parikkhāro" seems to cover mainly the longer lasting requirement, not food or medicine, while if seeing "patto" as given, it would then cover food and medicine as well, which makes sense then.
4021: Typos: "Ne shouldn’t go anywhere." He...
4044: "If the preceptor has a bowl (left?) and the student doesn’t, the preceptor should give the student the bowl or make an effort, (thinking,) ‘How can my student get a bowl?’": "the bowl", "a bowl seems to fit the case better. One would ask which? His (only)? oh... commentaryseems to make it clear.
4094: "cīvaraṁ saṁharitabbaṁ cīvaraṁ saṁharantena caturaṅgulaṁ kaṇṇaṁ ussādetvā cīvaraṁ saṁharitabbaṁ mā majjhe bhaṅgo ahosīti
He should fold up the robes {SC: separately}, keeping the edges four fingerbreadths apart so that neither robe becomes creased in the middle"
Anders übersetzt als im Schülerpflichenabschnitt (3629)
4567: This So-and-so is venerable So-and-sois venerable So-and-so’s candidate for Acceptance.
Seems to be a typosly repeating.
4576: may the (??) listen to me. This So-and-so is venerable So-and-so’s candidate for Acceptance.
"Sangha" seems to be missing.
4636: Why did "you you" give me the Acceptance unrequested?
Typos
5167: Taking out the spittoon, he should it them to one side.
seems to be a copy paste mistake
5301: If the teacher’s robe should be washed, the pupil should wash it or make an effort, (thinking,) ‘How can my teacher’s robe be washed?’or should he receive an alms bowl from that p
copy paste mistake?
4397: na bhikkhave paṇāmitena na khamāpetabbo yo na khamāpeyya āpatti dukkaṭassāti.
it seems that it misses a part of translation.
5782: Vigarahitvā dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā bhikkhū āmantesi
plural?
5863: He himself is not endowed with the aggregate of concentration of one beyond training, nor does he get others to undertake the aggregate of virtue of one beyond training.
secound should be concentration as well, not virtue, or? The same for the next 5 qualities.
6714: as he did the Aṅgulimāla of the aṅgulimālattheragāthā.
a word seems to be missing "with/for..."
7752: Having been chased away by the monks, he went to the elephant-trainers and horse-trainers and said to them, “Come, friends, commit sodomy with me.
ther should be Novizes (Samanera) instead of Monks (Bhikkhus)
7956+7997: Ven, Upāli reported the matter to the monks.
There is a comma instead of a dot.
8888: Wenn die Saṅgha bereit ist, I will ask So-and-so about the obstructing factors.’
a forgoten span-tag
9025: the Going-forth, went off and left him alone
it should be "acceptance", or?
9224: Tassuddānaṁ
different translatet then in MV 2
1548: adhivāsetu me bhante bhagavā ajjatanāya bhattaṁ yasena kulaputtena pacchāsamaṇenāti.
Yasa was no Bhikkhu (trans. as monk) at that time, but Samana, Contemplative (one having gone fort), or?
8615: "Ven. Ānanda said, “I don’t dare to use the elder’s name. I have respect for the elder."
It seems reasonable that "I dare to use the elder’s name." is proper, not only out of context but also that it is till today very impolite to adress especial inferiors by name.
Errors MV III:
MV III
327: The Allowance for Seven-say Business
typos: day
1156: this is evidenve that
typos, a remark: people, like even today in Cambodia, do not know the year (years generally are unknown, counted by zodiac) of birth but only the zodiac they are born under where there is an anicent counting system one needs to be skilled in: see http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,443.0.html
Samana Johann
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 28, 2018, 09:30:48 PM
Quote from: 5.3.2018
Honorable Sangha of Wat Metta,
Ven. Bhante Thanissaro, _/ _ _/ _ _/ _
Dear valued assistance of dhammatalks.org,
Upasaka Danilo, from Brazil, has recently given his translation of the Dhamma-essay "Wisdom over Justice" into Portuguese as a gift for the Noble Sangha, represented by the Sangha of the eight direction.
As such it has been received by my person and aside of willing to invite you to rejoice with his merits, my person likes to had over the gift.
May the Honorable Sangha, Bhante Thanissaroaccept the gift out of compassion and longtime well-fare of the giver. For a second,... For a third...
May the assistant help to forward the gift (knowing that it's not the best an wished way, but my person would not have any other possibility)
The translation is given here as attachment in pdf-format.
May the Ven. Sirs, in cases that any thing is required to make the gift acceptable in best way, let my person know how to serve for it.
_/ _
With metta & mudita
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 28, 2018, 09:32:44 PM
Quote from: 25.2.2018
Ven. Sangha of Wat Metta,
Ven. Khematto, _/ _ _/ _ _/ _
Valued dhammatalks team,
my person likes to inform that a draft translation into German, is also finished for the 1. Khandhaka and here offered: https://www.dhammatalks.org/vinaya/Mv/MvI.html
Here is also a list of possible mistakes for your use: (most current informations are always found here: http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,8275.0.html )
May it be of use and support, formost for those relaying on it's content. If there is any servis that would be of use to increase quality in regard of not missinterpreting the Buddha, please let my person be able to receive attention of needs.
Most respectfully
_/ _
Samana Johann
"Errors"
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 28, 2018, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: 12.1.2018
Ven. members of the Sangha Wat Metta,
Bhante Khematto, _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Valued dhammatalks team,
currently progressing the translation, my person found many small errors, typos, inconsistency... in the translations text. While currently focusing on translation and compensate most, if seen, my person, for sure, has only counted the more grave ones, visible for him, but sure, aside of spelling and typos, a deeper prove read is for sure good, maybe marking it as draft or taking it off-line for a while.
For those recorded, please look here: http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,8275.msg13441.html#msg13441
Sure, my person is willing and devoted, to serve as best as possible, in all he is able to, in this case.
My person might need another some of week, if all is well, to finish the whole. Of course more direct conversation and work would be conductive.
Pardon my person, that the told giving of access had needed till today to be done.
Independent of all other things, may Ven. Kemattho accept the personal gift of access and use of all given possibilities within sangham.net.
Email-account: khematto@sangham.net
Password: xxx
In/out server: mail.greensta.de (for install in outlook..., user = email adress)
(Copys of incoming mails to dhammatalks.feedback...)
Access via internet: https://mail.greensta.de
Mailbox: 100MB (please let it be known if further space is needed)
Account - sangham.net
Username: Khematto
PW: xxx
There are serval not public forums for monastics. The settings are set that visiting might be not public visible. Bhante might adjust, of course, all as he wishes. You may get an automatically verification email: no need to react on it, since the account will be activated already.
Serval details have been given in previous email. If there are, how ever questions or wishes, or certain things got lost, may Bhante feel invited and do not hesitate to ask.
Please:
May Ven. Sir, out of compassion for the original giver, accept this dwelling in the internet realm and the possibilities. May Bhante make use of it how ever he feels inspired, how ever it might be proper. ...for a secound... for a third...
_/\_ _/ _ _/ _
It would be good, and Sadhu in advanced, to possible sacrifice some time to forward it, if Bhante or the Ven. Sangha does get aware outomaticaly.
Thanks in advanced torward the dhammatalks team.
Samana Johann
(If sending, pw's can be added)
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 28, 2018, 09:44:04 PM
Quote from: 24.12.2017
Ven. Members of the Sangha of Wat Metta, Bhante Thanissaro
Valued team of dhammatalks,
attached you may find a German translation of the evening talk "The Karma of Happiness" for the Sangha of Wat Metta and it's use. It's not nessesary to count the translater and it may be of course edited as wished. No string attached. May Venerable Bhante accept this gift out of compassion. Anumodana!
Since having many hundred pages of translation, please let my person know if and how far they are welcome to be transfere proper, of course they are all objected for the Sangha of Wat Metta at first place anyway (are given to take here: via zugangzureinsicht.org and sangham.net). My person has not the possibility to get in other ways in contact aside of email. Sadhu for possible help in getting in contact, and Sadhu for forwarding to the Ven. Sir in advanced.
.......Attached as doc and pdf file
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 28, 2018, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: 1.12.2018
Valued dhammatalks team,
my person had prepeared an user account for your use and undertakings on sangham.net . Feel free to make use of it in what ever way it might be of support for yourgood undertakings.
Username: Dhammatalks
Pass word: xxx
Followed you may get a automatical verification email of which you can ignore. The account will be already for use. If wishing or of use of any possibilities, please feel welcome to let it be known.
This community account does not give access to certain not public lay and also monastic areas.
Please feel welcome to take also personal part and let it be known if help in prepearing is needed.
If you could assist and forward the following word to the Venerables of Wat Metta, it would be of support.
Metta & Mudita
.....
_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Ven. Sirs, Ven. Sangha of Wat Metta,
my person trusts that he is welcome to ask:
Willing to give possibilities and comfort, for the benefit in Dhamma and access: my person likes to ask if it is welcome for the Venerable ones, if my person shares for the Sangha objected given possibilities and prepears personal and community accounts and email for the Bhikkhus, their novices and also for the Aramikas of Wat metta on sangham.net ?
If there are any questions in regard of sangham.net, the lay supporters and givers, my person, please feel welcome to ask without any hesitate.
For the case that such is not wished, let my person know.
My the Venerable Ones, for the benefit of the original giver and many, out of compassion, accept this gift to be prepared.
Samana Johann
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 28, 2018, 09:56:33 PM
Pāṭimokkha anhand von BMC1 betrachtet - Diskussion u. Kritik (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,1931.msg8550.html#msg8550)
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on March 31, 2018, 05:43:33 PM
Typos: "13 Pācittiya rules that are identical to rules for Bhikkhus that are"
Typos, par.7: "being “a follower of a suspended (bhikkhuī).”"
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on April 02, 2018, 04:46:09 PM
Ven. Members of the Sangha of Wat Metta,
Ven. Bhante Thanissaro,
my person ask you to receive this gift (here attached, as html and simple pdf and doc), dedicated for the Sangha of the eight direction, and those following the Noble Ones, previously generously shared via Dhammatalks , coming to existence by means of what has been given by many in faith and effort of mine. It would be good when the Ven. Sirs, out of compassion for many, would receice this Dhamma-gift of transation of DN1 (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,8462.0.html) into German language and make proper use of it.
A second... a third time... and make proper use of it.
May the Devas and those able to transfer the gift, so that it can be proper received, have a share of the merits, rejoice with it, and take that what is not done yet, as an opportunity for their own grow.
May all beings have a share of the merits done here and growing from them, rejoice to the highest release, and may the Devas inform those not having been touched yet.
Anumodana
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on April 04, 2018, 04:44:01 PM
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on April 06, 2018, 09:16:44 AM
Generally there is also lack in regard of fonts and scripts given to either individual Sanghas or the Sangha at large, and it's at the end not good to use third parts property and capacity. It would be good if such would made Dhamma more released and those willing to give able to do it without much remorse.
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on April 08, 2018, 08:45:29 PM
Regarding: https://www.dhammatalks.org/vinaya/bhikkhuni-pati.html
Typos: "13 Pācittiya rules that are identical to rules for Bhikkhus that are"
Typos, par.7: "being “a follower of a suspended (bhikkhuī).”"
In addition the previous, while translating, by person came accross those things. May it be of benefit and useful for the Ven. Sangha, Bhante and Dhammatalks :
* Sg11: “Lady, don’t — overthrown in even a trifling issue, angry and displeased — say, ‘The bhikkhunīs are biased through favoritism, biased through aversion, biased through delusion, biased through fear. It may be that you, lady, are biased through favoritism, biased through aversion, biased through delusion, biased through fear.’”
Apostrophe ' should be not at the end.
* np-18: ...sake of a bhikkhunī, thinking. “Having purchased a robe with this robe fund, I will clothe the bhikkhunī named so-and-so with a robe:” If the bhikkhunī, not previously invited, approaching...
colon seem to be incorrect
* np-20: ...The robe fund that you, venerable sirs, sent for the sake of the bhikkhunī has given no benefit to the bhikkhunī at all. May the you be united with what is yours. May what is yours not be lost.” This is the proper course here.
"May the you be united with what is yours" probably "May you be united with what is yours."
* pc-128: id, link and mark up is missing
* sk-part4: only "Four" not "Part Four"
* as-2: "This is the verdict of innocence given in an accusation, based on the fact that the accused remembers (remembers) fully that she did not commit the offense in question." remembers seems to be missing.
* Upper/lower case for Bhikkhu/Bhikkhuni are not consistent used
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on April 09, 2018, 05:36:46 PM
Technical ( for the generous Dhammatalks Admin(s) )
* < p class="notetitle"> id for "Endnotes is missing, something like that < p class="notetitle" id="endnotes"> so that the link in index is not a lost one.
* links to Mv contents could be made, at this time missing (added in files)
Further:
_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Ven. Members of the Sangha of Wat Metta,
Ven. Bhante Thanissaro,
my person ask you to receive to accept this gift (here attached, as html and simple pdf and doc), dedicated for the Sangha of the eight direction, and those following the Noble Ones, previously generously shared via Dhammatalks , coming to existence by means of what has been given by many in faith and effort of mine. It would be good when the Ven. Sirs, out of compassion for many, would receice this Dhamma-gift of transation of Bhikkhunī Pāṭimokkha (https://www.dhammatalks.org/vinaya/bhikkhuni-pati.html) into German language and make what ever proper use of it.
A second... a third time... and make what ever proper use of it.
May the Devas and those able to transfer the gift, so that it can be proper received, have a share of the merits, rejoice with it, and take that what is not done yet, as an opportunity for their own grow.
May all beings have a share of the merits done here and growing from them, rejoice to the highest release, and may the Devas inform those not having been touched yet.
Anumodana
(A possible little improved html-online version will be found at http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/vin/sv/bhikkhuni-pati.html is to be regarded likewise given.)
/me : Rev. 12.April , also added a english version incl. missing links and crosslinks to BMC, pdf & doc are also new added now. May the Admin of Dhammatalks make use and handle is as he may think it's good for the receiver. )
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on April 10, 2018, 09:49:45 PM
https://www.dhammatalks.org/vinaya/bhikkhuni-pati.html
- pc-64: link to Bhikkhu-pati is missing
- many links are missing: adding is in progress, incl. crossref. to BMC, file, german&english soon (would incl. corrections and addings)
/me all link issues a add cosslinks added in revision above, 12. April
https://www.dhammatalks.org/vinaya/Mv/MvII.html
- MV II: the anchor 15_7 is given twice and 15_8 is missing
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on April 14, 2018, 12:06:14 PM
May the Admin of Dhammatalks be able to forward this:
_/\_ Ven. Bhante Thanissaro, may Bhante listen to me:
Some days ago, my person translated DN1, and had to "force" himself, having not been pleased by the argumentation in regard of "better sticking in Jhana, as other backwards" in the Endnotes, but thought: "Well...". After receiving this Suttas, AN 2.35, strong warning, seeing that while translating, the thought accured, "could it be that it has been not seen?" while reading the Endnote of it. Actually the Sutta is exact about this matter, "interior" fettered to the first for Jhanas, "exterior" fettered to form & formless states, Jhanas.
In no way, in all samples missing right view and objective, the first two samples of the sutta by Ven. Sariputa, are dedicated to denote returner (e.g 1!+2 Noble One) or none-returner (3 Noble One), as described by him (missing, right view, right resolve). That is, because out of not understanding, the Bhikkhus grow overjoyed, and the Devas thought to inform this "strange" appearing, not leading to disenchantment (e.g. a certain teaching met a not ready audience for it). Seeing that it not the proper time to go into this matter (again and certain corrective, possible also in "respect of Ven. Sariputta as teacher for them), he simply urged the Bhikkhus to peacefully focus on service (merits) where they are and discouraged the Bhikkhus to desire after this kind of becoming, focusing just on the practice for now. As the last sentence: "Sāriputta, those members of other sects who don’t get to hear this Dhamma discourse are lost." shows, it's exactly about being caught to Jhanic states, where sects lead each other into.
Finding it on many levels somehow "ironical", as if Ven. Sariputa where another time "helped" in his effort, my person thought of giving another echo to it, so that it's sound might be possible absorbed. Maybe it would be good to either modify the certain notes in DN1 as well in AN 2.35, or to work similar as the Buddha around the issue: by leaving those not on track now, behind with simply practicing, and a note to Sariputta, that otherwise others, not focusing on right view at first hand, are simply lost in thurning their rounds in or between certain spears for a long, long time. Again, my person is not sure if such a strict declaration "better caught in certain higher states, then to experience low realms (eg. Dukkha)" is proper to express as a quote of the Buddha. Actually he often adviced in opposite direction and rebuked his disciples who did not lead lay people to the unbound, just because they where overjoyed. It's merely a case of "pleasant speech, but not beneficial for the path" combined with not the proper time to speak on the matter, that this occasion was rendered in this way and since there are not many (other) Sariputtas outside, it's possible good to render Notes likewise. May the Devas "feeling disturbed" while usuall able to stand not disturbed, be echoed as well here. May this be taken as peaceful service, not at least as a reward of service or at first hand.
It would be good to adress note 3 also in this matter "one who does not return to this state", and make a distinction between the secound and third sample of Ven. Sariputta, which is actually the main point of this sutta: that only if right view, right resolve, is gained, the none returning (at least) to Samsara is secure. "Not returning in the third sample means mainly, not to craving, greed, becoming..." This is the distinction of the two meanings of "none-returner", as far as seen. 1. "One can practice to dwell for a while in Devas realm" 2. "One can practice to 'be caught' in the Devas-realm." 3. "One can practice for no return toward unbinding." And it's because of the redundant danger of being overjoyed again, the attaining of fruits by Devas, on that occasion, was, is not remarked, as discussed under note 4.
It's also worthy to note that the third sample of Sariputta does not explicit mention certain "awareness-release" (e.g. Jhana-practice) to become a non-returner to suffering.
The meaning of "exteriorly fettered" for the third individual means fettered to the exteriorly: Unbinding, Nibbana.
Note 5 misses the point of ideals, as also addressed in the sutta, human state and within Dhamma-Vinaya, or being a "Deva" attending to such right here, not particular involved, adressed.
Not sure if "many devas with their minds in tune [samacitta] went to the Blessed One" is proper here. Maybe "Devas of minds in tune", or "mind in tune - Devas", e.g. on the path and attentive of certain things.
"Those members of other sects who don’t get to hear this matter, unable to pay attention to it, are lost. Lost in blind self-overestimate of gains and feel approved in their usual ways: overjoyed."
Bhante
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Post by: Dhammañāṇa on April 14, 2018, 01:54:09 PM
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Post by: Dhammañāṇa on April 18, 2018, 11:06:52 AM
- since talking about MN 10 here "The fact that DN 22’s treatment of the satipaṭṭhāna is incomplete is also apparent from the organization of the sutta", it seems reasonable to change DN22 into MN10 here.
- Link to MN 12 is missing
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Post by: Dhammañāṇa on May 05, 2018, 09:09:20 PM
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Post by: Dhammañāṇa on May 10, 2018, 08:53:44 PM
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Post by: Dhammañāṇa on May 11, 2018, 06:53:49 PM
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Post by: Dhammañāṇa on May 12, 2018, 07:42:39 PM
Valued Admin of Dhammatalks ,
the html file seems to have an unclosed "a" tag. Corrected file attached.
revised, 23. Mai, new attached file next post
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on May 13, 2018, 06:29:01 PM
There are serial tag errors and a missing link on the page. A corrected file is also here attached.
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Post by: Dhammañāṇa on May 15, 2018, 11:50:05 AM
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Post by: Dhammañāṇa on May 16, 2018, 06:19:27 PM
Valued Admin of Dhammatalks , there is a "broken" link to MN 103, a file that does not exist (yet).
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on May 16, 2018, 10:27:26 PM
Valued Admin of Dhammatalks , there is a "tag-typos":
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<p><em>v2v2— and even experiencing feeling —</em></p>Post by: Dhammañāṇa on June 05, 2018, 08:06:16 PM
"Head & Heart together"
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Post by: Dhammañāṇa on June 08, 2018, 10:24:40 PM
Valued Admin of Dhammatalks , my person was sometimes curious about certain strange appearance in the Pali, here and there, now coming again accross strange punctuations like "pakkamati. anāhaṭā hoti pārisuddhi." my person likes to raise the question if such, and it's not only punctuation, happened by any automatical formating. Maybe worthy to give it an intensive check.
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Post by: Dhammañāṇa on June 10, 2018, 09:25:12 AM
Aramika 
Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "Re: Translation of the Mahavaga (by Ven. Khematto) - Übersetzung des Mahavaggas (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,8275.msg14838.html#msg14838)" eröffnet, dem angehäng.
One or more posts have been cut out of this topic here. A new topic, based on it, has been created as "Re: Translation of the Mahavaga (by Ven. Khematto) - Übersetzung des Mahavaggas (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,8275.msg14838.html#msg14838)" or attached there.
Post by: Dhammañāṇa on August 11, 2018, 02:36:43 AM
"Wisdom of Goodness"
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May all beings have a share of the merits done here and growing from them, rejoice to the highest release, and may the Devas inform those not having been touched yet.
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Post by: Dhammañāṇa on September 06, 2018, 06:58:32 PM
effluent* — āsava
An asterisk has been added but additional explaining at the end is missing.
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