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2019 Apr 19 06:30:18
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Apr 19 06:25:58
Moritz: _/\_ bong Villa

2019 Apr 19 06:25:48
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 19 02:23:14
Cheav Villa:  សាធុ​ៗ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 19 01:42:18
Johann: Another fullmoon, another chance. It's not sure that breaking apart will make it the last. May all spend a auspicious Uposatha.

2019 Apr 17 15:33:54
Chanroth:  _/\_ bong Moritz

2019 Apr 17 15:32:22
Chanroth:  _/\_bong villa

2019 Apr 17 15:31:07
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 17 07:11:18
Johann: Bhante

2019 Apr 17 05:05:51
Johann: Bhante  _/\_

2019 Apr 17 02:16:55
Johann: May all bring some merits left into this new year for them!

2019 Apr 12 17:30:17
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 12 14:39:05
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa

2019 Apr 12 14:27:27
Cheav Villa:  _/\_  Master Moritz

2019 Apr 12 14:26:24
Moritz: _/\_ Bong Villa

2019 Apr 12 14:26:12
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 12 14:09:15
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 12 01:54:32
Johann: A meritful Sila-day and much rightly joy by doing merits.

2019 Apr 09 08:24:39
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Apr 09 08:14:00
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 06 19:12:07
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 06 08:32:11
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 06 07:44:05
Johann: _/\_ Bhante Indannano, Bhante Khemakumara

2019 Apr 06 06:51:05
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 05 14:37:22
Khemakumara: Nyom Roman

2019 Apr 05 14:35:22
Johann: Bhante, Meister Roman

2019 Apr 05 14:18:13
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 05 09:58:10
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 Apr 05 09:55:43
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 05 09:53:07
Khemakumara: Nyom Moritz

2019 Apr 05 07:23:13
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 05 05:41:00
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Apr 04 02:43:01
Johann: May all spend a meritful old month over New month birth day this day.

2019 Apr 03 21:09:04
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 03 13:50:42
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 03 13:23:48
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Apr 03 13:07:53
Khemakumara: Tomorrow is new moon uposatha,  take this noble opportunity to come together in khema (peaceful).  It is not common,  that living beings are in contact with Buddha,  Dhamma, Sangha.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 02 15:20:21
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 02 05:09:56
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Apr 02 04:40:57
Moritz: Good morning Bhante and Chanroth _/\_ And good night to me. :)

2019 Apr 01 17:12:00
Moritz: Good evening Bhante. _/\_

2019 Apr 01 15:16:08
Johann: Nyom Chanroth, Nyom Villa (mudita that those wishing to stay in touch are able here)

2019 Apr 01 04:29:01
Johann: One not having overcome sakayaditthi is not capable to judge right and will always be corrupt.

2019 Mar 31 01:02:21
Johann: One would not let go of ones stand/home.

2019 Mar 31 01:00:01
Johann: As long as Saddha does not arise, it's not right view but stuck in "panna".

2019 Mar 30 10:03:35
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Mar 30 08:48:04
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 30 08:28:03
Johann: Samvega, yes, Nyom. If there is no pasada. Cheating is of no help but selfish motivated. Maybe Affirming the Truths of the Heart: The Buddhist Teachings on Samvega  

2019 Mar 30 08:13:03
Kong Sokdina: Vandami Bhante    :D បើចង់ អោយចេះប្រមាណ បើបាន អោយចេះគ្រប់ ជៀរាងការកើតទុក្ខនាំមកនូវសេចក្ដីខកចិត្ត(depressed mood) ។

2019 Mar 29 06:06:43
Johann: Like a path would disappear fastly in the forest, the path for many unseen if nobody steps on it.

2019 Mar 29 06:04:31
Johann: Because Uppekha isn't the highest and nobody would benefit from it.

2019 Mar 29 06:03:18
Johann: And why the even Noble ones and Arahats continue asking, answering, coss-question, giving Anumodana, critic?

2019 Mar 29 00:41:54
Johann: Once knowing good and bad, no more independency of approve of others, thanks, praise for ones sacrifices.

2019 Mar 29 00:40:05
Johann: What ever one does, one does for him/herself. Knowing this it's importand to give praise and approve to ones own skillful deeds, shame and disprove to bad.

2019 Mar 28 08:51:12
Moritz: I am leaving my computer to work without me. May all have a good Uposatha day. _/\_

2019 Mar 28 08:00:48
Moritz: Ja, gut angekommen. Noch nicht ganz umgestellt. :) Bald wieder los zum Taxifahren. _/\_

2019 Mar 28 07:45:55
Johann: Meister Moritz. Gut angekommen und wieder umgestellt?

2019 Mar 28 07:28:51
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 28 00:47:42
Johann: May all spend a meritful Sila-day and be able to recoice with their beauty of having given all being the gift of the Uposatha-Silas.

2019 Mar 26 01:18:56
Cheav Villa:  :D _/\_

2019 Mar 26 01:18:46
Cheav Villa: មិនខុសពីរឿងទៅសុំសៀវភៅសន្ទនានុក្រម នៅវ ត្ត បញ្ញា​ និង..

2019 Mar 26 01:16:15
Cheav Villa: កូណា ជារឿងដែលម្នាក់បានទទួលស្តាប់ និងធ្វើតាមតែមិនបានសំរេច តាមគោលដៅ :D _/\_

2019 Mar 25 15:28:24
Johann: Others, even if pure, is open for critic and bad assumings. Envy, jealously... on each side. So to become not susbected, needs good advices, double hard for woman to act perfect.

2019 Mar 25 15:23:21
Johann: Pappies can give good lessons when they don't fall, but the deeper, the hard training, must come from liberal mommies for daughters and liberal pappies for sons, in the world and for beyond.

2019 Mar 25 15:11:15
Cheav Villa:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 15:04:40
Johann: Does mommy generally don't actually love her child when not react?

2019 Mar 25 15:03:13
Johann: Mommy, mommy... but I like... ohh, they bite me... I am hungry... when do we go back?... why must we sit here... mommy!

2019 Mar 25 15:00:37
Johann: Which can be changed all the time, with feeding rightly.

2019 Mar 25 14:55:50
Cheav Villa: កូណាសង្ឃឹមថា.​ ជារឿងឧបនិស្ស័យ.​  :D _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:50:25
Johann: ...teaching and mirror.

2019 Mar 25 14:49:40
Johann: When one is stressed or busy, remember how many times one him/herself was so as well. Intention will always has it's effects, sometimes quick, sometimes even sisters, mother and child... Nyom wouldn't have become here, if there would be not long, long bounds. Watch your child. Thats always a great t

2019 Mar 25 14:40:41
Cheav Villa: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:39:48
Cheav Villa: ព្រោះកូណាមិនអាចទៅឱរ៉ាល់បានកំឡុងពេលនេះ តែអាចជួបនៅភ្នំពេញបាន តែចេតនាម្ខាងមិនចង់ជួប ទើបមិនអាចជួប

2019 Mar 25 14:38:39
Cheav Villa: កូណាគ្រាន់តែចង់បញ្ជាក់អំពីចេតនា ដែលម្នាក់មាន និងម្នាក់គ្មាន ក្នុងការ​ជួបគ្នា.ជាហេតុមិនបានជួប :D _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:37:02
Cheav Villa:    _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 13:44:16
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Foot well again?

2019 Mar 25 11:56:36
Johann: Good stories: The Healing of the Bull and Prisoners of Karma .

2019 Mar 25 11:51:20
Johann: Although monks are allowed to explain how to work oneself out, they are not given to liberate "slaves", prisoner, as this would count as thief.

2019 Mar 25 11:46:29
Johann: When one is "bond" in families, relations... there is so much soil and danger for envy and jealously, and itjs not easy to "pay" one out. Normal being live from making others depending on one and fear to lose a "cattle" they gave so much into.

2019 Mar 25 09:53:57
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 Mar 25 05:00:43
Johann: Some pull back and offer favors, less are giving ways out. Let them wishing to live in cities go back, maintaining homes. Bond by mara there is no escape, they leave alm bowls behind and step into cars, to "help".

2019 Mar 25 04:11:30
Johann: One (who ever) gives the best when helping, assist, in sharing Dhamma, translate it, sort it, easy accessable and maintain it, by proper and given means.

2019 Mar 25 04:03:32
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Mar 25 03:53:23
Johann: One stopped at the topic Sangahak, worldily and best. It's hard to try to translate but bears a lot of fruits. Conceit is dangerous, and a feeling of "right" turns quick into lose. Satipatthana, the right workingplaces. And again Ways of  

2019 Mar 25 02:53:11
Kong Sokdina: ដំណើរផ្លូវឆ្ងាយ មិនប្រមាណ បាននូវសេចក្ដីប្រមាថ។

2019 Mar 24 18:54:30
Cheav Villa: ជាចិត្តលំអៀងព្រោះជំពាក់ក្នុងសេចក្តីស្រលាញ់សាច់ញាតិ​ បងប្អូន.​ ឪពុកម្ដាយ​  ^-^

2019 Mar 24 18:49:47
Cheav Villa: ជារឿងដដែល យូរណាស់មកហើយ  ខ្ញុំ​កូណាគួរតែបានរកឃើញផ្លូវកណ្តាល​  :) _/\_

2019 Mar 24 18:48:21
Cheav Villa: ការជាប់ជំពាក់នៅក្នុងការជួយអ្នកដទៃ ការជាប់ជំពាក់នៅក្នុងការចង់អោយគេបានសុខ តែងនាំសេចក្តីទុក្ខ ដល់ខ្លួន

2019 Mar 24 13:23:44
Johann: Nyom Senghour

2019 Mar 23 06:34:02
Johann: No problem Nyom Vithou.

2019 Mar 23 04:32:25
Vithou: ngyom kuna will inform Preah Ang later when kuna get better

2019 Mar 23 04:31:12
Vithou: Preah Ang, ngyom kuna cannot go Phnom Aural tomorrow due to my foot problem. I let is a bit pain and Ngyom kuna cannot walk properly

2019 Mar 20 19:02:36
Johann: May Nyom have a safe and careful travel, when ever he might do.

2019 Mar 20 18:46:53
Johann: Now, Nyom Moritz and Nyom Sophorn are here in the forest. Atma does not know how long.

2019 Mar 20 18:20:42
Vithou: Nyom Kuna planning to see Moritz and Bong Sophorn as well

2019 Mar 20 18:17:26
Vithou: Nyom Kuna planning to go Phnom Oral on Sunday

2019 Mar 20 18:16:07
Vithou: Nyom Kuna was sick too long after remove kidney stone . ( about 2 months ) and skittle busy with human job

2019 Mar 20 18:13:50
Vithou: Is Moritz and Bong Sophorn at Asram now?

2019 Mar 20 18:12:02
Vithou: Kuna Preah Ang

2019 Mar 20 18:05:01
Johann: Nyom Vithou

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The previous html-value things are gone, copy and paste works so far with a special when copy from the editor window to libre-office (for example). Actually looking nice but maybe not intended:

No, not intended. But understandable. The unicode character E000 is used instead of ZWS to display the font. And that is also what is copied now, when copying from the textarea (since modifying the copying content did not work: removing line-breaks when trying to do so).

Since E000 belongs to the Unicode "Private use area" , its look is not defined by the unicode standard, but different fonts can define it as they want for their purposes.

I had expected that E000 and other "Private use area" unicode characters would not have a symbol defined in most fonts, displaying a generic placeholder sign (like an empty square, or a square with the code 'E000' written in it) instead.

So I thought it would just be displayed normally as just a placeholder square, something like this:
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(displayed as one small square symbol).

But it seems that for example LibreOffice will always try to find a font which has a character defined for this symbol, and use it. In this case there must be some font installed on the system where the character is defined and LibreOffice is automatically using that to display the E000 character. Otherwise it would be displayed as just a placeholder.

In any case, it is not possible for now to automatically replace the character with a real ZWS when copying. So one has to take care to replace it when editing in some other program. (But actually, pasting these characters back into the text area in ATI DokuWiki editor will not be a problem. It will then be saved as ZWS in DokuWiki.)

The comparison view seems to add "fictive" zwsp, but looks great as well so far.
Ah, now I think I know where this would come from. I have seen some function called "insertSoftBreaks" or similar, defined somewhere in the DokuWiki PHP code, and this is called when rendering the revision comparison page.
DokuWiki would insert ZWS characters on the comparison page, so that long code sections without space would be broken into different lines at some fitting positions, and not displayed as one huge line reaching out of the screen.
So I should try to make sure that the ZWS replacement happens before the insertSoftBreaks when displaying the comparison page. Should be possible to do so in the next days.

_/\_
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The previous html-value things are gone, copy and paste works so far with a special when copy from the editor window to libre-office (for example). Actually looking nice but maybe not intended:



The comparison view seems to add "fictive" zwsp, but looks great as well so far.



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Sadhu, Sadhu... may my person never hudles with comments and tests.  :) May Nyom spend a joyful Uposatha!

Atma will test on a little.
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Vandami Bhante _/\_

That comes from hudling.

*  Oh... I just notice, when clicking the "<.I.>" smiley here in the forum post editor, it inserts "&lt;.I.&gt;", instead of <.I.>. Must be a similar problem...   ^-^

Now I am confident everything should really be fixed. Sorry for any troubles. But at least nothing could have been lost, with old versions being kept in revision history.


Problem 1: inserting &gt; instead of > etc. happened during loading of the text for editing (in /lib/plugins/zws/action.php on line 86 at the time of this writing, applying formText function to the text, which DokuWiki applies afterwards another time, so it was done twice [converting into &lt; etc. for display is necessary but should happen only one time]). Is now fixed.

Problem 2: Not being able to copy from the editor, was leftover from the previous attempt of using contenteditable instead of textarea, using a method that does not work with textarea (in zws.js, lines 64-72 at the time of this writing). Is now fixed (only using standard copy now without modifications).

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It also seems to convert into CRLF line breaks.
Must have been the same cause as the first problem.

Problem 4:
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It seems that the script also adds zwsp next to the html-value of certain characters.
Must have been the same cause as the first problem.


All this should now work. I don't think it is necessary to disable modification. Old versions will remain in history and can be restored in case that really still something is wrong. And nothing really dangerous would happen.

_/\_
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Sadhu

The first test showed that text copied into the editor would be rendered in regard of certain html characters and what ever content is in the editor, can not be copied anywhere else.

http://accesstoinsight.eu/user/johann/test




The second test, after having called the posted links, shows that the renderings of special characters also become part of the displayed text.

http://accesstoinsight.eu/user/johann/test1



Atma is a little bit "scared" to open any page for now. Which seems to be good, since it obviously converts the text, having downloaded the file after saving:

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==== សុន្ទរសមុទ្ទត្ថេរ ====

&lt;span sang_id #sut.kn.tha.07.01&gt;[[km:tipitaka:sut:kn:tha:sut.kn.tha.07.01|sut.kn.tha.07.01]] | [[km:tipitaka:book_057#sut.kn.tha.07.01|book_057]]&lt;/span&gt;



&lt;div centeralign&gt;**(១. សុន្ទរសមុទ្ទត្ថេរគាថា)**&lt;/div&gt;



&lt;span para #para_225&gt;[២២៥]&lt;/span&gt; ស្រីផ្កាមាស​តាក់​តែង ស្លៀក​ពាក់​ល្អ ទ្រទ្រង់​កម្រងផ្កា ស្អិតស្អាង​ហើយ មាន​ជើង​ស្រឡាប​ដោយ​ទឹក​ល័ខ ពាក់​ស្បែក​ជើង លុះ​ដោះ​ស្បែក​ជើង​ចេញ​ហើយ ក៏​ធ្វើ​អញ្ជលី​ចំពោះ​មុខ ស្រីផ្កាមាស​នោះ និយាយ​នូវ​ពាក្យ​ជា​ប្រធាន​នៃ​មិត្ត((ពាក្យ​ចែចង់។)) នឹង​ខ្ញុំ ដោយ​សំដី​ដ៏​ទន់​ពីរោះ​ថា លោក​នៅ​កំឡោះ​ហើយ​បួស លោក​ចូរ​ឋិត​នៅ​ក្នុង​ពាក្យ​ប្រដៅ​របស់​ខ្ញុំ លោក​ចូរ​បរិភោគ​កាម​ជា​របស់​មនុស្ស​ចុះ ខ្ញុំ​នឹង​ឲ្យ​សម្បត្តិ​ដ៏​ពេញ​ចិត្ត​ដល់​លោក។ ខ្ញុំ​បេ្តជ្ញា​ពាក្យ​ពិត​ដល់​លោក ឬ​នឹង​នាំ​ភ្លើង​ដល់​លោក។((ស្បថ​នឹង​ភ្លើង)) កាល​ណា​យើង​ទាំង​ពីរ​នាក់ ជា​មនុស្សចាស់​កាន់​ឈើច្រត់​ហើយ យើង​នឹង​បួស​ទាំង​ពីរ​នាក់ នឹង​កាន់​យក​នូវ​ជ័យជំនះ​ក្នុង​លោក​ទាំង​ពីរ។ ខ្ញុំ​បាន​ឃើញ​ស្រីផ្កាមាស​នោះ មក​ធ្វើ​អញ្ជលី តាក់​តែង ស្លៀក​ពាក់​ល្អ ដូច​ជា​ជាប់​អន្ទាក់​មច្ចុ លំដាប់​នុ៎ះ ខ្ញុំ​ក៏​បាន​ធ្វើ​ទុក​ក្នុង​ចិត្ត​ដោយ​ឧបាយ​​នៃ​បញ្ញា។បេ។((គប្បី​មើល​ក្នុង​ចតុក្កនិបាត។))

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==== លកុណ្តកត្ថេរ ====

&lt;span sang_id #sut.kn.tha.07.02&gt;[[km:tipitaka:sut:kn:tha:sut.kn.tha.07.02|sut.kn.tha.07.02]] | [[km:tipitaka:book_057#sut.kn.tha.07.02|book_057]]&lt;/span&gt;


It also seems to convert into CRLF line breaks.

Don't open any page in the editor and save the content for now!

It seems that the script also adds zwsp next to the html-value of certain characters.



If having less time and much in hurry, maybe it's good and possible to disable the modification meanwhile.
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Valued @Guest,

today is Full Moon Uposatha!  Atma
appreciate to give this teaching of the Venerable Buddha.


 

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

In giving freedom from danger, freedom from animosity, freedom from oppression to limitless numbers of beings, he gains a share in limitless freedom from danger, freedom from animosity, and freedom from oppression.
Quote from: ??

http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/an/an08/an08.039.than_en.html

That is really appreciating!

May valued @Guest feel joy, take this opportunity of today's Uposatha to gain  freedom from danger, freedom from animosity and freedom from oppression by taking Sila and get rid of  lobha, dosa and moha!

 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_


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