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Open Vihara - [Offenes Vihara] / [DD] Dhamma and Abortion
« Last post by Johann on Today at 02:50:40 AM »
Dhamma and Abortion

My person likes to take leave to speak clear in this matter.

The Buddha and his Dhamma is very clear in regard of what is skillful and what is unskillful and even more clear in regard of training precepts. There are no "but"s and "if"s. Taking, destroying life, killing, intentionaly, by will or acceptence, causing the end of a beings life, either by one self, or in giving signs, verbalisations of order and approve to end a life, is breaking the precept.

As for kamma, the course of such, even it does not appear as physical action later on it, the thought of approve of destruction of live, is likewise kamma, and in approving one mentally kills and causes unskillful kamma.

To vote for approve of abortion would be already even a break of the Sila, as soon anybody acts on a law allowing such, created on approve by election.

In this case, if killing, or helping and assisting to kill a human being, one does good to be clear that such is not a light offense, a light case of kamma.

In regard of monks, it is therefore no wonder, that such an action, either by own act, or speech, by assisting and taking part is an immediately reason to be no more afflicted to the order of monks, since having transgressed one of the four grave precepts, parajika .

There are many people around, yet appearing as popular monks, who actually aren't monks any more. Having even engaged in political undertakings for approve by speech.

Aslo in the time of the Buddha, there have been many monks acting and engaging in killing humans, even for winning favor and for livelihood. There are many cases of such counted in the Vinaya and it's probably the most clear treated issue.

It's also good to be aware that killing of humans is not that far as most think and it's also good to consider, that the chance that a human being get killed by mother or father is more then a hundered to a thousand times higher than to be killed by someone else.

That should be also seen as a clear reason why you owe that much to your parents, since it is not so not so usually that someone takes on to take care and give in such a huge amount.

As for association with people of wrong view, it's not a protection and no blessing to be in association with people holding such as approving killing. If there is a chance to avoid such, one does a good step toward protection and getting blessed.

As for the cases where someone might reasonable not be aware of killing a living being, and that does not include mental reasoning of justification afterwards and requires honesty of course, there is no transgression. A case of doubt or fear of such would.

Virtue and goodwill is not just a hypocritical tool for gaining freedom from remorse and the possibility for gaining right concentration, path and fruits, liberation up to the highes amount.

In cases you had acted wrong, it's very needed to confess it and to promise to abstain from such in future, which would lift you out of the hole you have falken into to progress on the path.

And not even self-defense is a reasoning for taking live, not to speak of the many other deluded reasoning.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Happy, at rest,
may all beings be happy at heart.
Whatever beings there may be,
   weak or strong, without exception,
   long, large,
   middling, short,
   subtle, blatant,
   seen & unseen,
   near & far,
   born & seeking birth:

Let no one deceive another
or despise anyone anywhere,
or through anger or irritation
wish for another to suffer.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

And what is birth? Whatever birth, taking birth, descent, coming-to-be, coming-forth, appearance of aggregates, & acquisition of [sense] spheres of the various beings in this or that group of beings, that is called birth.

...

“And what is death? Whatever deceasing, passing away, breaking up, disappearance, dying, death, completion of time, break up of the aggregates, casting off of the body, interruption in the life faculty of the various beings in this or that group of beings, that is called death.

If also Nyom Ruslan , out of compassion, or seeing the duty in regard of his relation, likes to share it, seeing the danger of an Element as well that bound being together for a unfortunate result, he may do such with joy of doing a good deed, even in such an environment . Duty releases while wise compassioned actions increase merits for such, giving protection of danger from an Element, dwelling in the middle of wrong views.

Anumodana!
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DieWeisheit des Egos , vom Ehrw. Thanissaro, übersetz von sj
Egolosigkeit, so populär dieses auch sein mag, ist wie diese Symptome dessen Ausübung, besonders im Westen, klar aufzeigen, keine Art der Ausübung, wie Buddha sie für einen gesunden Weg lernte.

The Wisdom of the Ego , by Ven. Thanissaro.
How ever popular 'Egolessness' appears, like the symptoms have been show in the West, it is not a means which the Buddha has given for a healthy way toward release.

Mag vielleicht auch ganz interessant auch für des Meister Hanspeter s Diskussionsgruppe sein.
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Völlig alleine im Wald, jeder mit sich alleine gelassen, verbrachten die Laienanhängerinnen, Nyom Sophorn und Nyom Voithany , Anstelle der ursprüngliche Planung, 'einfach' den Berg Aural zu besteigen, im Wald und entschieden sich dazu, sich im 'Besteigen' der Brahmaviharas zu üben.

Es ist kein Wunder, das bei solch edler Absicht, die Devas wie immer für Besten Schutz und Umstände sorgen, ob um das abgelegene Kuti, oder um das Zelt noch tiefer, abgeschieden im Wald. Und es ist auch kein unbedingtes Wunder, daß da jede Angst, die es den meisten unmöglich machen würde, nur ein paar Stunden so "zurückgelassen" zu verbringen, mit dem aufrichtigen Bestreben des Besteigens zu den Aufenthalten der Brahmas, kaum ein Thema war und Dhamma das meiste abweisen würden, aufnehmbar war.

Auch kamen "zufällig" die beiden "Devatas", welche vergangenen Jahres das Feuer um den Ashram eingedämmt hatten, am Ende Ihrer beglücken Teilunternehmung, zu Besuch und zollten ihnen nicht nur gebührenden Respekt sondern erfreuten sich äußerst über deren Verdienste.

Anumodana!
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If anybody has contact or knowns where to find Ven. Subharu, my person would be pleased to come in touch with him.
Last seen here .
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Atma ist da gerade wieder darüber gestolpert.

Im Herbst hatte eine Gruppe von jungen Deutschen Studenten, die (Pflicht) Hilfsdienste und Lehrprogramme in Kambodscha besuchten, "zufällig" Kontakt und Interesse gefunden, Dhamma und andere Wege kennen zu lernen.

Upasika Sophorn hatte die Gruppe, die damals kaum etwas über das Dhamma kannte, ins Wat Cham Cha geführt, wo sie einige Tage intensiv, nicht nur kennenlernten, sondern auf beherzt Zuflucht und Silas (mit Ausnahme von einem) nahmen.

Auch sehr freudvoll zu erinnern, wie sich Bhante Sudhammoragito, trotz äußeren Barrieren, allen angenommen hatte und großartige Zuflucht gab.

Wäre interessant zu wissen, welch Einfuß dieses Erlebnis, eines das nur sehr wenige in dieser Weise haben, in Kontakt mit Buddhas Sangha zu kommen, auf die Einzelnen der Gruppe der "Devas und Devatas" bis in diese Tage hatte.

Dieses Wochenende, war eine Gruppe von 14, vorwiegend jungen Leuten, die über verschiedenste Hilfsarbeiten in Kambodscha im Bereich der Ausbildung zusammen gefunden haben, von werter Upasika Sophorn geführt, auf Besuch, um Buddhismus kennen zu lernen und haben alle Stufen des weltlichen Achtfachen Pfades, von kleinsten bis zum höchsten punna, begangen. Anumodana!

Sehr eindrucksvolles Ereignis und Begegnungen die ganz und gar nicht gewöhnlich und altäglich sind. Des Erzählens und Teilens mehr als würdig.

Nyom Vladimir war damals auch dabei. Sicher auch anspornend, wenn er sich zu erinnern vermag.

* Johann : Wenn Nyom Sophorn noch Bilder Geschichten und Kontakt hat und, sicher alles gut wenn geteilt wenn Ver-mögen dazu.

Anumodana!

Bild der/von Klasse
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If seeking for other western Ajahn Chah monks devoted to pets-duty practice, of cause you match them in relation of Brahm in the sugar-mountain (zuckerberg) realms:

What a nonsens and leading people to gain pets rebirth...
http://sangham.net/index.php/topic,8467.0.html

How poor must one be in heart to be of such corruption and low politic for poor becoming... of cause Brahm would neither check nor see his tail. That is why the Buddha didn't left it to your own judgment in regard of defilements but to seek for admirable friend, not pets or pets keeper. Seeking after right livelihood and holly live rather to make a living in pets entertaining and sharing crackers...

It's possible time to finish this "emergency" visit of the realms of pets and hungry ghost like existence and put left fuel into worthy
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Just one of those foolish elephants sample:

Bhikkhu Bodhi encouraging to not sacrify toward Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha, but to consider to devote the best fruits for Samsara...

https://vesak.buddhistglobalrelief.org

Simply stealing and simply destroying sociaties... another futhur ox, pig or cow... see next zuckerberg-post: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157656075829152&id=802419151&ref=content_filter for own security for future more human cow killing advocating...

Peoples are bound to their leaders and vici versa, through an element, the Buddha said.
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Monastic dwellings - [Klösterliche Unterkünfte] / Re: Bhikkhu Samahita
« Last post by Johann on May 26, 2018, 06:18:16 AM »
The monasteries Mahamevnawa Buddhist Monastery, Sri Tapodarama Monastery, Kandy, Sri Natha Ahasthana Monastery and Ulpathkanda Forest Monastery as some monks have been also informed, but since monks and lay people are similar in certain relation and today mosty incapable of taking on duties or to even response in proper way, it's of course not sure if ther has been anybody touched on feeling adressed in regard of duties or even in terms of compassion. What ever society one puts ones sacrifices into this societies capability one receives... they all have their ways and seldom that of Noble ones...


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Just saw a child lizard, one of those small with a fire red tail. It was a "baby", not even 1.5 cm long but actually total similar as an adult, walking alone and behave total similar.

The the thought arose: "Today people regard children of today much more and quicker developed, regarding them as faster an better. But is it really like that. If we look at animals, offsprings are very fast in being able to released. Human generally need good 20 years or more. It's probably wise to rethink if there is a development going on or simply a decay of measures and standards. As the wise said, the more degenerated humans are, the younger they are released to 'play' adulds, given certain responsibility."

When old people, even in the second time of their life act like children, associate with children and their ways, accept to be treated equal by children, encourave them to do so and are not devoted to renouncing. You may remember pictures of the grandfathers mountain biking, the grand parents appearing like young lovers, the inline skating 90... that is actually the real reason why people think children of today are smarter an more developed. Not because they are, objectively, but because the certain overall circumsatances got to the means of measure and of what is adult and mature, standards got lost.

gati, gati, down wardly walking, where would it "end"?

5cm long adult, just skilled in concentration to gain food, like the offspring, or slower?

When meeting young Cambodian haven grow up in modern world, because of the physical found and nutrition with simple knowledge, they are often very larg and know a lot, but not really helthy at all, especially emotional. People here, even the most wise monks, are mostly small and tiny, but mentally and in ways of conduct no match for them at all. That's the nutrition by living in association with wise and people of right view.

Just on translating The Wisdom of the Ego it might give some additional cleansing food for wise thoughts on the topic.

There is very much devotion toward very strange Super-Egos, the drive of "socialism", marxism. Animal-equal sociaties. It's not wrong to be government by super-egos, as long as they are of skilfull funktion, like that of admirable-friendhood, Devas and so on.

It's for the most not seek as a careful and compassionate order of the Buddha, to forbid his monks to show any sign of respect toward householde as a formal means and why it is so extremely destructive for many, when a Naga bows down, out of lacking wisdom is best shown in a tiny story called Der "Stolze Käfer im Kuhmist"-Segen - The "Proud beetle in the cowdung"-Blessing .

The same holds when leaders bow down to their fellows, parents to children an teacher to their students. No matter how "justified" in regard of personal things, it's crashing down whole sociaties.

How compassionate are you, if not working on being worthy of your position and give others perfect object of proper devotion?

Pets don't act out of wisdom and compassion and their masters likewise. It's simply driven by graving for sensuality and desire for being, no matter how low as long as feeded with sensual pleasures in great amount.

So be aware. If bowing and giving into lower, you crash down those regarding you acts and follow them, and you deprive others of possible fields of merits for them, to be able to get out by labor.

And if you take the lable and estimate of inferior, let others belive you had gained the gift of carring a certain good lable, you are simply stealing from your parents, the king and the Gems.

So it should be clear for those not deprived of any sign of what is the impact for one and many if one rejects natural and costume authority and at the same time devotes himselve to serve the lower, giving treasures downward for poor own livelihood and desire for getting honored without really haven done own sacrifices, not having gained anything sublime at all, nor living a holly live even outwardly.
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Johann

May 22, 2018, 10:11:37 AM
Sadhu!
 

Marcel

May 22, 2018, 09:37:30 AM
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Marcel

May 19, 2018, 03:07:57 PM
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ehrwürdiger bhante

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Nyom Marcel.
 

Johann

May 14, 2018, 01:24:42 PM
Sadhu!
 

Marcel

May 14, 2018, 01:23:37 PM
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allen ein verdienstvollen uposatha

 :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

May 14, 2018, 08:34:09 AM
Schüsse von Wilderern am Tag sind ja nicht ungewöhnlich, doch aus mehreren Richtungen und automatischen Waffen doch bisher hier nicht üblich gewesen. Möge niemand anderen Schaden zufügen und sich mit Abstehen davon jeder beschützen.
 

Johann

May 14, 2018, 01:06:38 AM
It's not an accident that you came here and it will be not an accident whether one stays, comes back or leaves for another becoming or goes beyond.
 

Johann

May 13, 2018, 06:51:53 AM
Mag da keiner seine Mutter an dem Tag vergessen zu ehren.
 

Johann

May 11, 2018, 02:11:37 PM
Nyom Marcel.

Schlangentag und -nacht heute. Wem mag man was vergönnen? Der Schlange? Den Mäusen? Metta & Samvega oder umgekehrt? Mal angstlos Hunger, mal Angst, mal Maus, mal Schlange, essen, gegessen, verfolgen, gejagt...
 

Marcel

May 11, 2018, 11:57:36 AM
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ehrwürdiger bhante
 :-* :-* :-*
 

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May 10, 2018, 04:00:02 PM
Nyom Marcel.
 

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Nyom Matthew.
 

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May 06, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
Chamreoun bo, Moritz
 

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May 06, 2018, 05:12:29 AM
Vandami Bhante _/\_
Einen angenehmen Tag. _/\_
 

Johann

May 04, 2018, 12:18:14 PM
...And what is lack of food for the arising of unarisen sloth & drowsiness, or for the growth & increase of sloth & drowsiness once it has arisen? There is the potential for effort, the potential for exertion, the potential for striving. To foster appropriate attention to them: This is lack
 

Johann

May 04, 2018, 12:14:44 PM
...“Und was ist das Fehlen von Nahrung für unaufgekommene Faulheit und Trägheit, oder für das Wachsen und Mehren von Faulheit unf Trägheit, wenn einmal aufgekommen? Da ist das Vermögen für Anstrengung, das Vermögen für Ausübung, das Vermögen für Streben. Dafür passende Aufmerk
 

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April 30, 2018, 02:59:48 AM
Sadhu.  :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

April 30, 2018, 01:04:45 AM
Ein hingabevolles Visakha-Fest, allen die es heute begehen, oder nochmal.


A devoted Visakha-fest for all who conduct it today, or again.[/en]
 

Johann

April 29, 2018, 08:42:23 AM
Sadhu!
 

Sophorn

April 29, 2018, 05:54:57 AM
Viel Segen und Einsicht heute an Vesakh Bochea!  :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

April 29, 2018, 02:08:23 AM
Heute oder morgen gedenkt und erfreut man sich an Buddhas Geburt, Erwachen und letztes Dahinscheinden.

_/\_

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -
 

Marcel

April 28, 2018, 02:58:36 PM
 :-* Ehrwürdiger Bhante  :-*
 

Johann

April 28, 2018, 02:55:18 PM
Nyom Marcel.
 

Johann

April 28, 2018, 12:44:32 PM
Geizhals :) (und nach dem Dhamma gegeben, wird so und so nichts angenommen.

Sadhu! Und mudita!

Nyom Moritz.

Visitor

April 28, 2018, 10:27:19 AM
Möge es euch allen gut gehen! Danke für Alles. Ich bin für ewig verschuldet. Komme zurück wenn ich was zu geben habe.
 

Moritz

April 28, 2018, 07:48:45 AM
Vandami, Bhante _/\_
 

Marcel

April 25, 2018, 02:20:08 PM
 :-* sadhu, möge es dem ehrwürdigen bhante johann schnell wieder bessergehen :-*
 

Johann

April 25, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
Körper. Besser, Atma würde vor einigen Tagen mit medizin versorgt und be-iniziert. Ein paar Tage noch bis NW der Med. wohl weg ist.
 

Marcel

April 25, 2018, 02:02:51 PM
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

April 25, 2018, 02:00:11 PM
Atma ist/übt am Samma-vayamieren/-mimieren. Fegen, sozusagen.
 

Marcel

April 25, 2018, 01:58:03 PM
 :-* anumodana ehrwürdiger bhante johann ich werder darauf achten :-* wie geht es ihnen mit der malaria-erkankung?  :-*
 

Johann

April 25, 2018, 01:52:35 PM
Na gerade auf guten Zuständen SOLLTE man, zum Zwecke der wahren Sicherheit aufbauen, sie entwickeln und festigen, Nyom Marcel.
 

Marcel

April 25, 2018, 01:37:13 PM
 :-* "im moment" geht es mir gut! aber da kann ich wirklich nicht drauf bauen :-* wie ist das wohlbefinden des ehrwürdigen bhante Johann?  :-*
 

Johann

April 25, 2018, 01:25:09 PM
Wie geht es Nyom Marcel?
 

Marcel

April 25, 2018, 01:12:57 PM
 :-* ehrwürdiger bhante johann  :-*
 

Johann

April 25, 2018, 01:11:36 PM
Nyom Marcel
 

Johann

April 22, 2018, 09:11:17 AM
Sadhu!
 

Sophorn

April 22, 2018, 08:40:14 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
May every being be happy and free from dukkha.
May many renew their vows in silas today.   :-* :-* :-*
 

Danilo

April 15, 2018, 12:43:25 AM
Bhante _/\_
 

Johann

April 15, 2018, 12:38:56 AM
Nyom Danilo.
 

Johann

April 12, 2018, 10:05:15 AM
Moritz
 

Moritz

April 12, 2018, 08:34:11 AM
Namasakara, Bhante. _/\_
 

Moritz

April 10, 2018, 07:19:18 PM
Hello.
 

Johann

April 10, 2018, 01:09:20 PM
Nyom. (Sideboad ist stets zugeklappt... tech. Probl.) 3:00 ist auch schon guten Tag.
 

Moritz

April 10, 2018, 03:06:49 AM
Good day (night here)
_/\_
 

Moritz

April 10, 2018, 02:54:42 AM
Namasakara, Bhante. _/\_
 

Johann

April 09, 2018, 09:43:17 AM
Take your time Nyom Danilo and watch the breath to stay best calm for best benefit. A lot of chances to get ride of many ols burdens.
 

Danilo

April 08, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
_/\_

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