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Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: December 28, 2020, 07:29:45 PM »

Devadatta is by far topped...

One can only hope (although less chances) that this Anarchic "monks" nuns, Dhamma-thieves and most violent and society destroying group of sutta-central, around Bhram and Sujato can be successfully heavy censured and brought to mind, if things to "remain" represents of the Sangha are even still possible...

At least one would be wise to best protect ones dependence for any touch of this sort and community.




Akaliko: There’s a lot going on here… Bhante @sujato, thought of you! :grin:



Sujato: I’m touched, really.


Be sure that they are not related to Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha and heavily avoided by any good person, not to speak of monks!

That's again, as often, years told, a reason why Bhikkhu-Sangha should inform people at large about their violations, especially authorities.


To be clear, followers of the Buddha are in no way Anarchists, but the opposite, having strong leader-ship, laws and duties, respect common societies and never encourage people to oppose their leader. Followers of the Buddha, as it is a sign of attainments, hold and have authorities and hierarchies, know who is first, what is first, and what comes behind... no single idea can be found in Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha, that would even a little support and tolerate the violence of this degenerated folk.
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: October 22, 2019, 11:23:18 AM »

Since ever, Devadatta and his kind used to dispraise those with Sila, used to disregard righteous leaders, perform hell-leading deeds and undertakings and misuse the lowest people toward revolution, toward harming their parents, kings, brahmans and Samanas.

So is it, that once having become part of this host, those being hardly ever will find ways out of the courses of suffering, hardly ever recognice their faults, asks for pardon and renounce.

Hardly ever they could return to the Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha and find refuge that leads upwardly and out of suffering.

Yet still it would be possible, at least to find the path in a later existence.
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: September 05, 2019, 01:06:55 PM »

That ones parents are not perfect does not excuse to harm and sooner or later kill them by giving into the defiled tempts of Mara, seeking for no good or even better at all.

Ones weakness will not excuse the fruits of ones actions leaded by own delusion, greed and aversion.

So a wise one does not even think a little outward of right view, outward of what the elders of good family follow since the appearance of the Sublime One.

Take care, and what ever stupidity done, stay away to give into Maras lures.
Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: September 05, 2019, 11:44:23 AM »

was another time asked, and even if those not related can not be helped, to give those with eyes more firm confidence, answered:

How could Mara ever be part of the Sangha. Mara is always that which opposes the Buddha, the Dhamma and Sangha. Good to think to who one is actually related and serves. Those oppose the elders and wise?

Not so smart seek for friends and enemies outside first, are incapable to trace their intentions and related effects, wouldn't like to get in touch with mirrors, would be able to trace Mara within their heart and actually fight themselves, not knowing the way in. So here you are, right in the host of Mara, working for him, cheating your self, a mind of Devadatta. Envy, aversive, greedy, upvoting gains of your stand, down-voting mirrors, capable to kill even your mother, father, Arahats, harming the Juwels and splitt holly apart. Total caught by Mara, not a little right view left for release.

What one is after, there one arrives": so wise to think about oneself (althought telling fools 1000 times would not protect them)

What one feeds, feeded, one gains, so smart to always look for oneself whether greed, aversion or delusion gives one excuses to take part on Maras feeds...

It's not possible to help them strongly related to Mara, those attached to gain and stand.



And it should be not an issue if those rejoicing on gains in the world attain of what they desire. They do their best according to their "wisdom".

So good to rejoice with them, appreciate that they wouldn't have such success if not certain related merits in the world had been done in the past.

Anger and envy just feed off you own possibilities and would anyhow not lighten your debts to be bond to the fools giving into Mara. The place where you can move on to Upekkha: "Beings are heirs of their kamma." & " Beings gather together, again and again, on an element, on similar tendencies and preferances of food:



So why not joining the merits as one not willing to leave home and stand wouldn't meet those having anyway?

Ajahn’s Birthday Fundraiser for NBM – Wow, over 414k collected + 350k “$ for $” match

One gains what one feeds, stays with what nurishing on, and neither holder not pig are to be claimed to be the bad part, as things are matters of will, choices.

You may find your wished interpretation on https://suttacentral.net , given to use for trade and exchange. "Come! it's easy, free, we did the work for you... we had stolen, steal, for you... and help you to become free (another ophan)."

Called the debaucher, temper, he takes any change to lead people by there delusion, greed and anger, to destroy their families, destroy traditions, unity and to use Dhamma in corrupt ways for the sake of conflicts, unease, and to splitt the Sangha, splitt off those who follow the elders, for his gain, himself caught and full of defilements.

(Why aren't relations never really a surprise for those with eyes...? As if Mara would be that hard to trace, hard to trace those strong related.)