Nur ein Tip Nyom Roman , mag er immer sehr konkret sein. Schoen das teilen dieser Bestrebung und geschickt, aber andere moegen da nicht unter die Arme greifen koennen.

Alleine den Wunsch zu haben ist schon sehr verdienstvoll. Das mit anderen zu teilen noch mehr und andere dann auch noch ins Boot zu nehmen und umzusetzen noch viel mehr.

Nun ganz theoretisch fuers Praktische. Nyom kann es nicht persoenlich geben. Moenche (wenn gut) nehmen kein Geld an, unterhaten keine Fonds und lagern auch keine Speisen und Medizin nur sehr gering. So, wenn Nyom nun zum Beispiel soetwas aus der Ferne umsetzen moechte, veicht Mittel Senden koennte, benoetigt er Laien die beim Geschickten helfen wollen und sich dem Uberbringen annehmen. Er koennte nun, sogar herzlich von vielen hier eingeladen, einen oder eine anderen Laien ansprechen? "Ich moechte gerne.... koennte das und das schicken, wurden Sie sich darum kuemmern es den Moenchen passend darzubieten oder darbieten zu lassen (von den Klosterdienern)." Klar sollte ihm da sein, dass es den anderen Laien genau so geht wie ihm und sie sicher noch viele eigene Mitteln dazutun muessen um das zu tun, Fahrt, passendes Zubehoer...

Sicher laesst es sich dann auch wuenschen etwas in Bildern von einer kleinen Zeremonie etwas davon "zurueck" zu bekommen, um es vielleicht hier und unter der Familie nochmal zu teilen, Gelegenheit zum Mitfreuen zu geben.

Also einfach mal ueberlegen was und wieviel genau und dann konkret jemanden um Beihilfe ansprechen, Nyom Roman .

Wenn er auch noch Speise fuer seinen "Bruder" geben moechte, nochmal schwerer, da ihn die Laien auf Almosenrunde "ertappen" muessen, so er in der Unterkunft nichts annimmt.

Desto mehr er Beziehungen mit Leuten in der Moenche Umgebung pflegt, desto besser. Sicher kann man auch die Muehen damit mit Geld wegmachen und "Botendienste" heuern, aber dann weis man nicht wer den Lohn der Mehrkosten bekommt (keiner freut sich mit dabei, dem Boten ist das "wurscht", keiner mehrt Verdienste und macht/bildet Bezug, Abhaenigkeit mit/von Gleichgesinnten) und wie er den verwendet, auch wenn's einfacher scheint anonnyme Dienste zu nutzen und DHamma-Industrie sowas nutzt, weiss man hier jedoch dann mit wem man Beziehung aufbaut (was man beim Bezahlen von Botendiensten auch tut... Beiehungen entwickeln, nur kennt man deren Tendenzen nicht.) Waechst da wirklich hinein in andere Familien.

Und wieder Vater. der Meister Roman... sind auch viele Muetter hier and Vaeter dahinter, kennen die Dinge und die Muehen der Gebundenheit, wie deren Freuden.

Mag er ruhig Deutsch schreiben, wenn Ihm lieber.

ខ្ញុំ​កូណា សុំឱកាសនេះ​ សម្តែ​ងការត្រេកអរ 

និងសុំការអនុញ្ញាតសុំទុកលេខទូរសព្ទ័របស់

Bang Puthy's Tel: (see profile Ieng Puthy )

Bang Sophoeun 's tel: (see profile Sophoeun )

I, Brah Karuna, ask to get leave (okasa) for this need

and asks for allowance to put the telefon no. here.

 

 

Kurana understood the intention but was not certain of the good deeds (gifts). With the thought of shipment of the gifts to Cambodia, Kurana approached Nak Kru for discussion.

Karuna will approach Mr. Roman for direct conversation and contact បងពុទ្ធី និង បងសុភឿន if Kurana may need support.

See, that's the fruit of puñña kusala, certain desire for birth/stand jātī. Dukkha is it's effect, yet, dukkha is the cause (if nissaya), for Saddhā... pītī, ..sukha... samādhi...till vimutti, and knowing it.

People who just like to do vipassana and seek for pleasure in samadhi, avoiding doing merits, and so run away from dukkha all the time, how can they come to the lokuttara paṭiccasamuppāda? That's also why an assistant in doing merits often makes more merits, at least is able, then the donor him/herself, often to busy with him/herself, holding on sa-kaya and diṭṭhī (stand, kind), own stand, own kind, in dependecy, relation (to senses, world).

Mudita and much further effort to all of you!

Audio in Khmer attached, Nyom Ieng Puthy . Nyom Senghour is fluent in English and German, as Nyom Sophorn (who can not read Khmer a lot) and could always help out. Nyom Cheav Villa might be able to transl. written english to Khmer as well.


user:johann:audio:dhammatalk:dana_help.mp3

  កូណាបាន ប្រាប់បងពុទ្ធី និង​សុ​ភឿន ប្រសិនបើគាត់អាចជួយបាន ព្រោះកូណាមិនមានសេរីភាពច្រើនដូចពួកគាត់

បង​ពុទ្ធី បានអោយកូណាសួរអំពីពេលវេលា​ ដែលលោកRoman នឹងទៅអកយំ

កូណា សរសេរពួកយើង​ គឺជំនួសមុខ​ បងពុទ្ធីនិងសុភឿន 

Kana (I, Brah Karuna,) has/have told older sisters Ieng Puthy and Sophoeun since I may not have a lot of freedom to help him.

Older Sister "has given (me)" to ask about the time when Mr. Roman would/will come to Akyum.

Kana has now written instead, for our kind (us), to older sister Buddhi and Sobheoun

Sadhu for care and it's actually a matter of having much freedom to be able to communicate between worlds.

(Just informal, to repeat the story: My person thinks that Upasaka Roman might not came for now, but desires to make a gift toward the Sangha at Wat Akyum. It would be good if Nyom Roman corrects that, if wrong and tell open what he would like to do.

As far as understood nd seen. Nyom Roman thought to contact Bhante Khemakumara  in sich a regard, and since he might not be able to receive certain gifts seeked for help for him and so contacted Upasaka Senghour (male, and speaking German) to possible assist him. Having gone the way of dependencies, he told then his teacher, Upasika Sophorn about the matter, to scared to talk with Nyom Roman direct, and not so used to monastery matters. Nyom Sophorn , who is also not so familar with ways in monasteries, thought of asking Bhante Khemakumara direct again, who of cause could not act much different as before and send them back again to the beginning.

Now all may have again all contacts and also a topic here, but if not willing to "leave house" and putting the relation as layfollowers, and part of the parisa higher so to overcome hindrances, it's difficult, sure.

You all don't need to think that this is a unique case. Modern people are incapable of sharing merits and it's just sure that here is a unique situation where such is more public and certain monks do not fall (like most others) into the habit of following from one home to another and serve such in accepting "private/relations communities with lay people".

So all of your possibillity to challenge may kind of habitual unskilful habits and do in addition help each other to overcome them. Again, don't worry, 99,5% are not even as far as you are already, but would tend back to their "privat monks" able to reject burdensome diplomatic under other householder devotees.)

Nyom Mother-brahma Sophorn here, of course, as most old, and giver of this place, has the most and hardest work to do, where she might need assistence, because, althought very zuvorkommend (pubbakara), not really trained in what is usual in Cambodia and having addopted the modern ways of individualism and "mind-reading" very much. Not easy for all, of cause, and surely also good if males, and in line, approach the young Father-Brahma, Moritz , who is also a selfless connector.)

Mudita and much personal grow here with this lessons! (And, althought sounds heartless, wish you that Bhante Indaññāno does not help as usual out here.) That's all a high Vipassana lection, actually. Don't think just low matter of Generosity and render help. So called meditators, and meditation teacher, have mosly the most problems with the basics.

Atma translated Nyoms original post while she "scared changed it" (Sadhu for such, everything fine)

ជំរាប​សួរ​ លោក​ Roman និង​ លោក​  Senghour 

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សូមទុកថាពួកយើង​គឺជាក្រុមគ្រួសារព្រះ​ធម៌​ និងព្យាយាមជួយគ្នាទៅវិញទៅមក ក្នុងអំពើជាកុសលនេះ 

Um Herrn Roman und Herrn Senghour anzusprechen (zu fragen)

Wenn da irgend etwas, daß "meine Leute (Art)" helfen könnten, sein mag, mag man es stets ansprechen. Ich, ältere Schwester Ieng Puthy und altere Schwester Sophoeun sind stets höchst erfreut helfen zu können, in bester Weise wie uns möglich. Man mag gerne auch die Telefonnummer anwählen...

Mögen wir alle Teil einer Dhamma-Familie sein können, und stets die Möglichkeit haben einander helfen zu dürfen.

(Both, Bhantes Brother, and Nyom Sophorns disciple and teacher, are speaking German, how about also learning German: much more polite and dhammic and same language-family)