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Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: May 02, 2017, 01:58:55 PM »

Quote from: Upasaka Swapnil on Bu-SE: Does love mean crime?

Does love mean crime?

I really know what does love means even my prior question was also "What does love means?" but as I'm going through. When I tried to let person know I'm loving then it gets angry at me so how love conquer anger/hate when I found person hates me. Neither has affection nor kindness towards me, no respect for my feelings towards that person. So is this love crime that I found someone who I Iove hates me after knowing I'm loving that person. I don't know what's their psychology or perspective of love. So I've question that is love crime?


Swapnil,

Love does never conquere anger and hatred but is actually the reason of it.

Look how angry you are, aren't you? And why?

Love is simply greed and it's not proper to blame another trader of not taking your deal, or?

Of course it's not a crime perse, but actally the reason for all crimes in this world. To deal unfair, in cases where others do not like to trade with this dangerous item, lead also often to direct "love-crimes"

That is why the Buddha and wise people taught and teach, "Suffering comes from what is dear " and to make best nothing neither dear nor put anger into it .

And since no being loves any thing more as him/herself, on should not harm others and derive them from their beloved.



Upasaka:    
Yeah, I know 'Piyavagga' but I'm in search of my life partner so I just expressed my mind my feelings , affection, love, kindness for that person. I wouldn't agree with if it's reason for all crime. I mean who is wisdom wouldn't be criminal because of love. I would let you know person not knowing Piyavagga or Buddhism really so I really really don't understand their perspective of love. I know that every thing end with sorrow but this is it

Johann:    
As told, if the is no love there is no killing. Its not always called crime in normal sociaty, but looking a little bit deeper also Swapnil will see how much he had killed for it, and not only good and cool mood. "But this is it", if such would be a proper approach to suffering that the compassion of the Buddha for his alternative was useless and you also could stop to do conductive harm in regard of defilements and just live like an animal. There are alternatives much more refine then sensual pleasures which always cause harm and also a way even beyound this refinded pleasure.

And having a partner or not, one will be aways alone, just experiance sign, sound, smell, tast, touch, thoughts, e.g. the world for one self and just for one self, created for one self. Thinking that far, are you even really relayed to the world you experiance? Or is it not so that all this is also not lasting, makes no sense and can not be regarded as refuge? So why not seeking after hardwood, now where there is the seldom chance, rather to invest in meaningless and turn on in that wheel?

Upasaka:    
Ok I'm agreed 'This is it' I mean I've decided to live as layman and not as monk. So that circumstances give me nice choice itself now I'm thinking to find one who practicing Buddhism and that wouldn't hurt me ever that person would be wiser and wisdom as practicing Buddhism so I've to stop what I was looking for like silly. Thank you.

Johann: Samajivina Sutta: Living in Tune and mudita.

Upasaka:
Thank you so much. This is it :)


Mudita.

[Übersetzung ins Deutsche auständig und wäre gut]