Virtual Dhamma-Vinaya Vihara
Vihara => Open Vihara - [Offenes Vihara] => Topic started by: Dhammañāṇa on August 17, 2019, 10:52:08 AM
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Atma, my person, came across some topics on gratitude where Upasika Binocular ( turtle , Visitor ...) "fighted" like a tigress for "her children" in trying to make them basics on Dhamma understood.
It's how ever not really possible to teach people of no integrity about integrity sice their lower fetters are so strong that it is impossible for them to see through the net, especially hindered by (group)indentification views which cause them real troubles if tracing strong dependency.
So my person will not get much into fundamental things here but use the topic to draw out the different between a person of integrity and a perfect one.
Sometimes it is thought that there is no real different between appreciation and gratitude, but actually there is. Common different between appreciation and gratitude is that the second involves one personally while appreciation or approve, the recognition of a deed or quality does not need to focus on people as autonomous beings.
Gratitude includes the quality of recognition of a good deed but/and adds more or lesser autonomous individuals to it.
A person not freed of all fetters, yet already on the level of integrity, trains toward freedom from debt and obligation. Something that is possible till the extend of three people, those who could hardly repayed: Bahukārasuttaṃ (http://forum.sangham.net/index.php/topic,8308.0.html).
Once having reached the grounds of integrity and train toward liberation from debts one would feel naturally obligated toward his benefactors and fellows as supplier of the path, i.e. the Tripple Gems. In regard of those behind, those not in the sphere of integrity, it's "simple" a matter of pure compassion when giving something valuable and would of course, if they are able to receice, bind them also toward liberation.
There are, how ever, those (and not less) who overestimate themselves, who not only strongly increase their debts into spheres where they hardly would be able to stop denying obligations, but also conduct a lot of unskilful things based on grave wrong views. Just think on killing ones parents (great benefactor), holly people, harming the Buddha (highest goodness) and go for splitting "holly families".
As for the last, since very modern, undertakings of "stealing" Dhamma and suggesting others to practice without dependency, all this "free", open-source, GNU, CC idiotic... what ever "marxistic" undertakings of the many, often leaded even by monks with strong wrong views or acually wanderers of other sects, all this are undertakings wishing for degenteration and splitting off childrens from their parents, relatives from each other. Modern "communism, Socialism", which holds rights and demanding, taking of what is not given high, are large appearances of such wrong views and are for the harm of many, "selling" pseudo liberalism, wrong liberation, as real liberalism, right liberation.
Being actually that dark already in this world full of debters, people of integrity would not go much outward of their kind.
Less are those willing an capable to "play the ball upwardly" and strong bond by Mara, after gains in the world, those with corrupt mind, having taken on the Dhamma, do much harm for themselves and many. It was because of this that the Buddha, at the end of the Kuṭṭhi Sutta (http://accesstoinsight.eu/en/tipitaka/sut/kn/ud/ud.5.03.than) told those who train toward freedom of debt:
As one with eyes & having energy
would
treacherous, uneven places,
so a wise one, in the world of life,
should
avoid
evil deeds.
One is of course free to share goodness where ever possible and althought not pleasant, althought fools would harm themselves and others, althought it might be of ones loses in the world, it's the deed of the fools and does not fall back to one if not touched, if having given with pure heart, out of compassion.
It's how ever wise to ask oneself whether one conducts out of obligation toward Mara or simply out of compassion, free of obligation in regard of low gifts, that of the senses, headed by unwise conceit.