Posted by: Dhammañāṇa
« on: February 18, 2022, 09:13:45 PM »Thought that it might be possible to give Grandfather Renold some clear winks to come to mind and back to right, taking his new left undertaking "spiritual Right" as clear object of this tendency, it's not possible for now as Saddha requires Dukkha and still total indoxicated...
Last replay: metta as no hope and worth. May grandfather Renolds do what ever he feels left...
In SEA one says "he has gone astray to left" when someone leaves the Dhamma, good ways, goes for sensuality, trades or in other ways devoted to the corrupt. So he's now left behind, left, behind, or the blog started...
Samana JohannFebruary 8, 2022 at 6:42 PM
What's now the different between good householder and the lefties? Is there still one? Maybe because lefties neglegt to pay the bills as well? Where did good householder got all the ideas from? Bought in shops and paid for it, or just taken on wrong view: 'I have a right...!'. There are less areas not dominated by plunder and the one or other kind of anarchic ideas. The spirituallity of the poor ones, following Robin Hood...
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PaññobhāsaFebruary 8, 2022 at 6:48 PM
What the hell did you just say? Pretty much all I understand of it is the scolding tone.
Samana JohannFebruary 8, 2022 at 7:48 PM
If good householder would try to perceive it as auspicious gift, he certain would understand. As for those thinking in terms of rights, meaning closed up by wrong view 'this should be mine', how could there come out of the net of defilements. No idea who once translated the Atthaka Vagga, but maybe this helps: https://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/kn/snp/snp.4.15.than_en.html
Samana JohannFebruary 8, 2022 at 6:47 PM
"And if one really is intent on renunciation in a society that does not support that, then what does one do?", sex, sensuality, is the opposite of renunciation. So one needs to leave sociaties, relations, based on what ever kind of trade for pleasures, first that of exchange of body fluids... A corrupt heart isn't able to leave, is bond to Mara, yet calls for right to gain liberation, not seeing who holds on suffering like if it is real refuge and pleasing.
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Samana JohannFebruary 8, 2022 at 6:50 PM
Lefties, annoyed of mirror, who like to be right and white... it simply doesn't work that ways, and the right path has already be left, left.
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Samana JohannFebruary 8, 2022 at 7:55 PM
May persons bowl start to get rusty and it would be good to learn to bake it by one who got the skill generously by the lineage of generous, liberal. Maybe more worthy then the empty rubbing and masturbating all around and inviting others to participate. It would of course require renunciation, something as hard as right, and far from left(ties). Have the nuts?
Samana JohannFebruary 9, 2022 at 5:52 AM
Just in the case that good householder like to assist in regard of another Squattering undertaking of the punks around SC. As Devadatta Sujato is just up on stealling the last not by punks occupied Dhamma, that of the Khmer, he might have an idea in regard of what might merit a lot: some on it here (of course shut down): https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/questions/46539/ongoing-stealing-at-suttacentral-how-should-a-devoted-react and here: https://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=629.msg27628;topicseen#new . It's of course not a matter of right, but a duty to keep the Dhamma out of being occupied by Brahmanic traders, their punks and the guild of consumer. To use Dhamma-Vinaya is of course more of use the certain right-lefties philosophy. Would he be 'weaponed' to do such task, say for Khema, real Khmer?
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Samana JohannFebruary 9, 2022 at 7:48 AM
Btw., as my person thought of what would be the proper conduct and spiritual acount now, for a devoted householder: Did good Renolds ever went after the duties of an virtuous and faith full Upasaka? Ever gave food to monks, helped in monastery, encouraged other to meet the monks in ways it's proper done and as a good encouragement that western can be good lay-buddhist as well, as he 'enjoyed' many, many years? Why not sharing merits? That's total political incorrdct, yet the way which joyful taken on duties excell out cries for right (the lefties, slaves, way). Freedom of making goid, merits!
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AnonymousFebruary 10, 2022 at 3:57 PM
Johann I think is saying there is a right and wrong way to be poor. Many, perhaps most poor, don't care about sila, they care about getting high and robbing others. The rightists assume they are more ethical, but many are not. The right doesn't even like giving. At least they like family. If one is not wageslaving in the rights agenda one is nothing to the right's overlords. Democrats and Republicans are two different monsters, both inhumane and alien religions per say, and crushing humanity to death from both sides. There needs to be a party that respects Dana, Sila, Medicine, and the "Business of Man," that can also defend itself from total puthujjanas, for whom any reason serves thier tyranny or theft.
Samana JohannFebruary 11, 2022 at 7:11 AM
Even relation is result of ones choices. Sacrificing strong toward sensuality binds more and more, to home, limited livelihood possibilities, yes also deper. Non-stinginess is the attribute of all Ariya-puggala, even the cause for just heavens. Nobody gains great wealth even on earth if not having given causes previously. Just, as the Buddha told: not gained wealth in the youth, not renouncing (sensuality) in the old, that's indeed a not wise used seldom human life. Yet, the better of the two, renouncing, everybody could do, if willing, what ever foolish ways taken before, right here and now, if seeing the real danger, the real tyranny origin actually in ones own heart. Nobody called one to become where one takes place aside of ones desires, craving, and not-knowing, ignorance, good householder.
Ex-emporiumFebruary 11, 2022 at 4:11 PM
Let's not forget the working poor who are simply trying to keep their families alive, safe, and marginally happy. In many cases it's not about getting high or robbing, but it may be a matter of living beyond one's means for reasons difficult to explain or even justify. People get sick, they make bad investments or concessions to keep a marriage going "for the kids", etc. The right extols family values, but when is the last time one could maintain a traditional single earner
household? Are the big companies gonna pay those kinds of wages anymore? Let's also not forget the left which wrecked the economy decades ago starting with the Great Society.
Is it just me, or did everything turn to shit after JFK was slaughtered? Oh yeah, and why can't Johann find a good translator?
Samana JohannFebruary 12, 2022 at 8:30 AM
What about mice-right? Don't they have even harder in simply try to keep their family alive? Yet, it might go in conflict with the snake-right, similar. Whom would goid householder give right? Metta and virtue (right view) makes one not only lighter by heart but even worthy of being given a right, a gift.
PaññobhāsaFebruary 13, 2022 at 9:56 AM
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AnonymousFebruary 11, 2022 at 5:22 PM
Interesting blog post my good man. As an aging western theravada layman, I never imagined how difficult it would be to merely keep just the 5 precepts. For homies it's really just finding a niche where one can maintain them and it sets one way above the puthujjana (defined as: one who in everyway whatsoever lacks the 5 spiritual qualities, faith, sila, ditthi, etc.) The poor ought to attempt to be worthy of gifts. Elites and employers ought to attempt to be worthy to "work for." Especially with things like betrayal, invidiousness, gaslighting, racism, theft, price gauging, usury, etc, increasing in society, how does one stay safe? A huge question, is, how does one know who are the good friends to associate with, before its too late?! The problem ones are extremely good actors who will fool one. It even feels like society is designed to make sick wageslaves, and literally prevent spiritual endeavors and awakenings. This is due to layers and layers of lies that were all inflicted and covered up time and time again by corrupt heathen governments and cults. Some do attain a decent escape from the ratrace as NEETs, if they are very strategic, intelligent, and ethical, but it is typically extremely isolating, at least psychologically. As an unrelated question, I am extremely interested and would like to ask: why you were unable to maintain your samadhi practice in your ordained life? What percentage of monks are attaining and maintaining samadhi to thier own satisfaction? Is it necessary in order to not return to the sensual society? What could be done to help monks attain it? Why couldn't you wander the country as a ordained monk bum? You said it'd be a non-starter, why is this so? Do you think society is intentionally designed this way to prevent this?
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Samana JohannFebruary 12, 2022 at 8:25 AM
Grandfather Renolds might be not willing to confess that desire for Sex is the worlds and their societies bonds. It requires to gain right view to start to work ones way out As soon as again becoming homie/leftie again, there would be no Samadhi. Gospel singing and claiming is their way to try to work out the path, as not willing to let go of Sex, they call for others to join. And notions of Sex go even deeper, good householder: Methuna Sutta: The Discourse on Coupling https://sangham.net/en/tipitaka/sut/an/an07/an07.047.tanp And yes, a no-returner is one gained Samadhi, as left sensuality behind. One not having reached that point, would at least return one more time. One who gained the path, 'ordain' at most seven times again, if lazy and awaiting heavy suffering to come.
The Niche to have a way for everyone, given by the Sublime Buddha, is the going forth and it's 'social network structure'.
The questions aren't unrelated, yet, to gain ordination is a matter of being given, liberal, not a right at all, as thinking on rights is grave wrong view. Like it's total liberal of laypeople, yet not within the noble domain, to be generous toward the Sangha. Yet, the Buddha reminded his monks once, not willing to ordain an older poor man, that he had provided some of them with food, aside of having normally made his life by services in the monastery. Things have reasons, as bonds have reasons: by binding, demanding, calling for rights. Yet Saddha, surrender to giving (up material, world, house) is the key out.
Samana JohannFebruary 13, 2022 at 6:29 PM
(Please), for you own sake and support of others in best ways, let go of grave wrong view of the lefties, "I have a right", since this is the cause of all evil. One even the Dhamma of the Buddha is declared in such way, people demand spiritual right, this very gems disappear right there and long term pain for many can be suspected? You'd might be not quick and free enough to see evil arising in your heart, so seek out for association that categorically does not accept doubts in basic right view. One becomes fast that one dislikes seeing it outwardly, and it's desire for sensuality that leads to the next fetter of views. Practice best where you are, give what you own, to those worthy of gifts, uphold right view, gratitude, virtue, the path develops itself (on the given causes).
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PaññobhāsaFebruary 15, 2022 at 3:18 PM
Seriously, I very much doubt that you understood what you read. (Also, as venerable Ajahn Chah used to say, even Right View becomes Wrong View if one clings to it, and you appear to be clinging mightily.)
Samana JohannFebruary 16, 2022 at 8:31 AM
So good householder Renould is definitely a lefty, rejecting it... Well: if wishing to learn the lefties way of thinking, observe the mind. And yet, a lefty "buddhist" wouldn't care about his duties but seeks to make a lifing, a gain with it.
"And how is one made [a lefty] by mental action? There is the case where a certain person is covetous. He covets the belongings of others, thinking, 'O, that what belongs to others would be mine!' He bears ill will, corrupt in the resolves of his heart: 'May these beings be killed or cut apart or crushed or destroyed, or may they not exist at all!' He has wrong view, is warped in the way he sees things: 'There is nothing given, nothing offered, nothing sacrificed. There is no fruit or result of good or bad actions. There is no this world, no next world, no mother, no father, no spontaneously reborn beings; no brahmans or contemplatives who, faring rightly & practicing rightly, proclaim this world & the next after having directly known & realized it for themselves.' This is how one is made impure in three ways by mental action.
Samana JohannFebruary 16, 2022 at 8:39 AM
Of course, the "smart" would always let go of right view, even that of the path, if it goes in the way to part-take sensuality. That's common 'flexibility' (of defilemtents) yes. It's really hard to imagen what good householder Renoulds 30 years in robes did? Obiviously not taken refuge but just the space, right? Well, maybe he thought it's 'spiritual right' and one has just this life...
PaññobhāsaFebruary 16, 2022 at 3:16 PM
Oh man, judging from your compulsive scolding and denigration, I would say you have more hate in your heart than I do.
Samana JohannFebruary 16, 2022 at 4:22 PM
Good householder, wouldn't a non informed child not usually think that his mother or father are doing for harm, are full of hatred, dislike me, when, just caught up by foolish thoughts, they harshly verbally urge to let go of the way of conduct, the way of thinking, by means of "only this has to be seen as focus "right view"? And did not even the Arahats hardly urged, to never, ever give up wrong view? It's of course that people, like stubborn children, seldom see that not a little hatred is behind of their urging. May good householder, even just for one line of thoughts of consideration, assume that one who really acts for his welfare, has no slightest self interest thought, tries to make me think clear. Would good householder be able to follow such hypotheses and preoccupation to reconsider again and maybe see who 'act'ually speaks to him and other? The are those who are beyond hatred in their heart, and their words, advice, guardian. Having traced, on surrender (saddha) one is able to gain liberating refuge.
Good householder Renolds. Did you considered that your undertaking here is like founding the first labor union. Does good householder really believe that the Sublime Buddha would exept and approve "Buddhist labor union"? Why to try to get pension or social support, at times not working. Why expect the credit of others to compensate that what has not been accumulate by own deeds? No right master would ever sacrifices a little further if duties start to be neglected and call for rights and demands arise. For labor unions goodness in this world right there disappear and the gate to hell and pain opens as soon as this path of demanding is taken on. Let go of wrong view, let go of the evil to even act as a union leader for those who would need nothing more that guardians and clear way, sets of secure duties, like the Buddha gave Singala.
Samana JohannFebruary 16, 2022 at 4:34 PM
Maybe voice rec. helps a little (yet english as bad as it could, of course): https://sangham.net/_media/user/johann/audio/dhammatalk/renolds1.mp3
PaññobhāsaFebruary 16, 2022 at 5:12 PM
Samana Johann, you actually compare yourself to a loving parent and a disinterested saint, while you have called me (let alone the readers of this blog) a "loser" several times, and you make up ridiculous false accusations and insinuations, such as the idea that wanting a traditionalist form of Buddhism in the west is like starting a labor union. All one has to do is look at your onslaught of semicoherent spam in this comments section alone to see your mental states, and the apparent fact that you are oblivious to some of your own volitions.
Samana JohannFebruary 16, 2022 at 7:00 PM
So good householder thinks that somebody returning to seek refuge in Mara, sensuality, isn't a loser? Steping out and looking at this undertaking here and good householder would quickly see what he translated from Snp. An Union leader, trying to form a boat for his fellows, claiming others being the reason for their misery. Sure it's now much harder haven taken on the left course himself also outwardly, not able to leave house and look at it with right yonisomanasikhara, not a householders yoini-so-manasikhara. And there are Saints, thats part of right view. Lefties deny it, saying all equal, we seek refuge in denanding rights. Good householder not only one time compared said with that of the Buddha but whether it supports his house/stand or not. Thats the lefties political correct way of view, yet not the political incorrect, not conductive for 'sex' and worldly gains Dhamma. Lefties dislike it and what if banned. Calling for rights is actually nothing else as the hindrance of byāpāda, and seeking for approve of ones stand,vfear of losing house, one does not work, in the world and for higher as well. Again, it requires to see the Dhamma to see the Arahat, seeing the Arahat, one is able to see the Dhamma. Yet itjs difficult for former wanderers of other sects to ever surrender and go beyond the three lower fetters. Yet possible. Did good householder ever met a former monk approaching him, while he was a monk in traditional land, who acted, spoke and regarded unskilled like him even outwardly, like he does? Let good householder tell of the burdens of former monks, trying to gain any stand. What duties of a ordinary good lay devoted had he done in his lifetime, yet before? It's sure not a light question? What had be been supplied by others without they had been driven by him claiming a right but simply in faith or out of compassion?
If anything is wrong in regard of the Dhamma of the Buddha, aside of not pleasing to approach those without faith, my good householder point it out. He maybe will not find and so, fearing lose of stand, stay with the evil friend, of the five, byāpāda and takes vicikicchā as well into the boat of 'spiritual' right. Imagine the Brahmas calling for spiritual rights... that real poor.
Samana JohannFebruary 16, 2022 at 7:24 PM
Audio: https://sangham.net/_media/user/johann/audio/dhammatalk/renolds2.mp3 (in terrible english, and arrogant appearing as arrogance could be appearing)
Samana JohannFebruary 16, 2022 at 7:59 PM
Could good householder imagine someone really holding no rights at all, no signs of householder as well, 'refuge-like' like a bird everybody could kill if wishing, a beggar with only the Gems as refuge. One who receives only given in faith without trade or bonds. An "outcast" approaching him?
AnonymousFebruary 16, 2022 at 5:41 AM
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Prepareth to understand brothers. Jews and Reptilians are two evil monster factions, with rebel good members, basically the Petas and Naga factions. Buddha refused to ordain a shape-shifting Naga in the Vinaya and told him to make merit and human rebirth instead. They CAN be good and ought to be, and waste thier time here. Either faction can dominate an area, but will typically unite together against white man. Both view actual humans as pets to conquer and own and win to thier side thru crime and manipulation. Jews are human bodys with bad genetics, defiled to house bad spirits, ghosts. They are the crypts, the drauger of elderscrolls, geomancer ghosts clinging to our world thru the evil jew bodies, larping as Nephilim. Reptilians are the bloods (the Argonians) and can be liberal or conservative. Both types appear to have a more hive mind pyramid hierarchy of command and are extremely telepathic. In animal kingdom, the telepathic win the hunt..
They hate any telepathic whites and discredit them as schizos to breed them out and make humans blind. Nephilim and Reptilians have less free will being hive minds, and do not understand freewill, and lack imagination and creative abilities, having a range of choice but having to take orders from thier hive or den. They both think lying and deception and interlopingsare virtues, which is the root of nearly all unnecessary problems in society, but they would rather goto war and be reborn in Hell than admit thier faults and take personal responsibility, and simply remeber themselves. The longer they goto Hell, the longer Man goes to Heaven, although compassionate Man still hopes they repent and we can all be friends. The worst are reptilians with a ghost in them, making them extra evil, a kike lizard, basically a fag or dyke snake. It appears many reptilians are conservatives lower ranks and hard workers, but its difficult for them to be good, since they've taken up a worldwide lie against humans, casting a literal spell on everyone, to cloak themselves, in fear of being enslaved by humans. They are experts of Illusion magic.. In thier thinking, each person is either predator or prey, period. That's all they can comprehend. This makes them total heathens and is a pyhhric victory for them, since still in karma, they waste thier opportunity to gain merit and rebirth as human again, and secure thier ludicrously long future in dugatim rebirth, along with the ghost jews, and the yakkha demons (basically, black people, who have already blacked nearly all cultures of the entire Earth). It's easy to lose hope being born as a dugatimers, since it's so difficult to be decent and good once there. Now the jew ghost supports burials in Graves. This is so they gain an anchor point back to the world of the living, then work on corrupting people in order to possess the unethical victim. Now you blessed schizos will understand: whatever you think of, instantly, that is what you are talking to, and what will hang around you in the spirit world, either harassing you or aiding you, hating or loving you. Unfortunately only white humans seem naturally capable of logic and truth, it is possible yet extremely difficult for the dugatim beings.
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Samana JohannFebruary 16, 2022 at 4:41 PM
Usually union leader need slaves, slaves seek union leader, both after gains in this world. This appears in all kind of color variants. Don't one think that the right wing of left (behind) isn't left as well. Greed and Aversion are the same coins side, framed by equanimity, yet thin. Does 'white' has the capability to see the logic, the truth, or is his hard and mind defiled, dark, goes from the bright into darkness?
Samana JohannFebruary 16, 2022 at 8:25 PM
Whether one is a 'poor' black slave, a 'white' lossy worker, a brahman (jewish) tech-giant CEO, a Jhain maintaining twitter, a burdened Trump or Devadatta Sujato: all would have the possiblility to sacrifices toward spiritual and beyond, virtue, generosity, renouncing, modesty, metta, non-stinginess and reach the realm of the Brahmas, possible get the Dhamma of the Arahats and way toward liberation as well, yet till the is already worldly Bhagavata, Liberal. Ocvupied by wrong view, calling for rights, even the Brahman falls into hell.
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DMRFebruary 17, 2022 at 12:44 PM
Johann,
In simple words, what exactly is your issue with Pannobhasa?
You seem very angry that he disrobed, with little faith that he is a wise person who is capable of leading his own life in a good way and without robes.
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Ex-emporiumFebruary 17, 2022 at 7:07 PM
Samana Johann,
It might be better to post in German and allow someone to translate your remarks into English so that we might better understand what you wish to say.
Samana JohannFebruary 17, 2022 at 7:45 PM
Audio: https://sangham.net/_media/user/johann/audio/dhammatalk/renolds3.mp3
Samana JohannFebruary 17, 2022 at 7:48 PM
Krabat, or good Renolds: Spiritual Right propaganda... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2_CXLtHXGU of the communists, lefties.
Samana JohannFebruary 17, 2022 at 8:24 PM
Btw. As before. Since understanding Dhamma requires to leave home/stand on worldly relation first, requires to dewll in Boarder land, good householder Renolds as well as his dependecies are given to use environment outside of Maras domain, with no google bonds and not feed for left: forum.sangham.net (no banning or other harms like censure or stealing). Audios, videos... what ever dhammic, toward liberation leading and thought to merit for good.
Saman JohannFebruary 18, 2022 at 2:24 AM
"what exactly is your issue with Grandfather Renolds"... 'we' don't forget goodness done toward 'us', remember it and 'pay' it forward when ever there is an opening.
Samana JohannFebruary 17, 2022 at 8:01 PM
Btw. good DMC once asked Devoted and carefully: not sure if he ever got the answer. https://forum.sangham.net/index.php?topic=8189.msg14314#msg14314
Language: it's not a matter of language as a pattern of sound, but a pattern of less or strong sakkāyadiṭṭhi. People with much, either German, Engl., Khmer, aren't pleased, seek for translator. Otherwise, those knowing the talk, have no problem at all (when proper attention is present). When papanca-dhamma is present, no way to receive the gifts.
The Krabat movie possible would have given good Renolds much motivation to point the issue out, some years ago, now he would just use it for his left way, probably... As one of the 'liberated' and 'heros'... for Mara and the circle of death.
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PaññobhāsaFebruary 18, 2022 at 5:21 AM
Fair warning Johann, if you just can't resist your compulsion to spam the comments you will be banned. Exercise some self restraint.
Last replay: metta as no hope and worth. May grandfather Renolds do what ever he feels left...
In SEA one says "he has gone astray to left" when someone leaves the Dhamma, good ways, goes for sensuality, trades or in other ways devoted to the corrupt. So he's now left behind, left, behind, or the blog started...
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Indeed, the truth that many people never understand, until it is too late, is that the more you try to avoid suffering, the more you suffer, because smaller and more insignificant things begin to torture you, in proportion to your fear of being hurt. The one who does most to avoid suffering is, in the end, the one who suffers most: and his suffering comes to him from things so little and so trivial that one can say that it is no longer objective at all. It is his own existence, his own being, that is at once the subject and the source of his pain, and his very existence and consciousness is his greatest torture. This is another of the great perversions by which the devil [Mara in ones heart] usesourphilosophies to turn our whole natures inside out, and eviscerate all our capacities for good, turning them against ourselves.