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Zwei Tage zuvor brach der junge Dhutanga-Mönch wieder auf um nach einen Lehrer zu suchen, nachdem er am Almosengang vorne ging und sicher ein paar unangenehme Erfahrungen machte.

Gestern was Nachmittags plötzlich ein Junger Mann alleine heraufgekommen. Ein "Tierarzt", bei der Arbeit gehört, daß da im Wald einer verweilt. Alleine den Weg gefunden, auf seinen Freund vergebens wartend, begann der christlich unerzogene (Tiere töten macht nichts...) Mann, leicht authistisch, Fragen über das Dhamma zu stellen, erkannte nicht viel später selbst das Form, Auge, Klang, Ohr... Gedanke, Geist nicht echt sind, Streß, keine Zuflucht, nicht das eigene... konnte schnell, anders aufgewartet, ungeleitet vervollständigen, zuvor nie gehört, nie gelernt. Mit Klarheit verließ er nach 3-4Stunden den Ort, sich zu tiefst bedankend.

Gerade heute, Abends, tauchte ein junger stattlicher Khmer auf, in Motorradkleidung gekleidet, hatte sich von einem Dorfbewohner hochführen lassen.
Er hatte all seinen Reichtum zurückgelassen, und hatte die Stadt für die Suche nach einem Vipassanalehrer verlassen... sein Habe am Weg verloren, gefragt, ob er nicht einfach hier das neue Kuti für eine Zeit verwenden möchte, war er fähig selbst sein teures Motorrad total fremden zu überlassen und lieh sich von Nyom Chanroth dessen einziges weises Gewand aus, da war eines in dem Habe, das er mit hatte.
Chanroth begleitete den jungen Millionär hoch und richtete das notwendigste im Kuti für ihn her, ging dann.
Der junge Mann, aus hoher Familie, nachdem sich umgezogen, kam dann um Fragen über das Dhamma zu stellen. Bereits zweimal eingeweiht gewesen, sein Bruder irgendwo im Wald zwischen Thailand und Laos als Mönch verweilend.

Befriedet zog er sich nun zurück, total im Fremden, alles zuvor hier aufgegeben...

Eine Person, aus höchstem Hause, an nicht fehlend, fähig hier und jetzt loszulassen.

Kaum einen Mönch getroffen, der dieses könnte. Tausend Tode würden selbst Leute von hier sterben, bevor sie das könnten.

Zum Mitfreuen an den Verdiensten dieser besonderen Personen, aus dem Land der Wunder.

Alles nicht sicher... außer daß Geschicktes immer zu Gutem führt, wann, wo, ist nicht sicher...

Atma muß schön langsam aufpassen, nicht zuviel der "Wunder" zu teilen, sonst wird er bald weiter ziehen "müssen", so frequentiert es hier schon wird, vor lauter Devas, grob und fein.
"Mirror, mirror on the wall..." *schmunzel*

Try to close the door from outside, and leave all keys inside, including all to be "identified", before, householder Ruslan 2 , so that you learn to know of what is vimutti and what not without the need of commentary. That you get a small idea how far this path still is.

"One time in future I like to become a monk...", you are really "funny" young householder. Holding sign, sound, smell, taste, touch and ideas for real.

Try to learn to ask your self always "sure?" before you act.

Maybe you will be more attentive when you sleep, later.

Meanwhile something to think about: "Humorously" Dharma refections

My person put your old topic outside, so that you may have the chance to get interested about your deeds and what you did, since not interested in words of others and since avoiding them (your deeds) by thinking you didn't, it was not you, thinking you are beyound actions of misconduct.

Welcome Ruslan (pewpewrongview) - Willkommen pewpewrongview

Let it be known if you could go through it by asking "sure" in all regards, that it can be put into no-public again, because it's really cringey... you know.

Quote from: Ruslan report to mods
Der folgende Beitrag, "Re: Welcome pewpewrongview - Willkommen pewpewrongview" von pewpewrongview wurde von pewpewrongview in einem von Ihnen moderierten Board gemeldet:

Das Thema: http://sangham.net/index.php?topic=8442.msg14100#msg14100
Moderator-Center: http://sangham.net/index.php?action=moderate;area=reports;report=33

Der Benutzer hat folgenden Kommentar dazu geschrieben:
can you delete this, i spoke too quickly as i felt attacked by you and you made assumptions about me and my friends

Quick are parents, Arahant killed, quick are Buddhas cause shed blood, quick is a Sangha split, quick one acts on fatal wrong view....

What are you capable to? Sure?
The only thing i will tell you is that if you hold view that Ruslan has no attainments and no superhuman knowledge, you are slandering me with worst accusations and it will be a blocking obstacle for you on your Path if you are wrong in your view. According to commentary you should not try to attain higher Path and Heavenly Birth is blocked for you if you are wrong in your view and you Revile a Noble One.

i dont care what you think and i dont even read your post.
That's what Nyom Ruslan has been told since his arriving and still is, because all he seeks of is support of his ego-trip. Not listening to anyone, holding him, his objects, for real and if fading for enemies.

have a good day and please stop being obsessed with my person.

"I rather save my energy for fighting demons and the Householders at DW are not demons, they are confused people and i have no resentment for them in my heart."...  ^-^ "wake up little Susi, or better Susi beware of devil" or is it really required that your grandmother sees you making striptease on the table in public?

Do as you wish *schmunzel*
i dont care what you think and i dont even read your post. have a good day and please stop being obsessed with my person.
Look at your following, this fools, and how they act on DW. Does that make you pride of "your" childs? They don't even know that you will soon need to abound them when the backwards arise of that poision "now is my chance to win"...

When coming to mind:

If looking for good work to calm down, there are serial suttas of which it would be good to translate them dedicated for the Sangha of the eight directions, if having the skills and no more need to use what really given (e.g. third part easy means of maras).






And the Sutta of self, devas or powerful monks reminding previous sages (low and real sotapannas by birth) on the path of going forth.
Nyom Ruslan ,

since not even able to doubt and investigate your for real taken preoccupations and movies, still strong bound to believe that sense and it's objects are real, be sure that you are still capable to kill father, mother, arahant...

There are many like you out there, actually already dwelling in low realms caused by their over estimation. The list of those approaching impressed by simply seeking for friends for maintaining their illusion is long here. The list of Robin hoods, taking Dhamma as means for outwardly fights, desiring victory.

If any of the devoted follower would ever act similar as my person outwardly acts, know him or her as not related. There are no fools and outwardly fighters here, non who has not deeply respect in regard of the gods of all levels.

Those having fallen into the traps of young gifted pride, have all been rich on puñña, all "smart", auspicious, children of rich middle class parents and it's easy to imagen of how blessed they would have been if they would have been grown tamed and corrupted by google and it's monks.

That are primaly your, and of yours topics, the loyal and capable one. And it's possible to trace many stories of "equal" here. Starting by founders, supporters... soon having become fearful people, haunted by "enemies" even if their parents approach.

Since one needs to work out his bounds by one self, my person likes to leave two teachings behind to consider wisely to increase proper fear and remorse in regard of basic unskillful and to get right of improper fear and doubt in regard of skillful sacrifices.

Dahara Sutta: Young

Dhp 72

Make your own wise choices, tool have been given. A fool can not be stopped to cut himself "eternally" off, as a wise will use it for his benefit seeing fools act.

That is why children of holly parents, it they come home with a blue eye, get probably fast the secound.
How ever foolish, if not learning the lesson given in such, then there is no hope at all.

Again, by confessing and then restrain for min the time having suppressed and by reasoning justified, is means for soon reconciliation and a possibility to really go on and forth.

By harming and destroying those you depend on, your parents, teacher, leader, brahmans and Samanas, you only cut off your own future for long long time and those you had trusted, those having corrupted you, they will be also out off reach then...

It's not easy for you having grown up in your previous, being your grandfather, destroyed generation. You just fight yourself, one time on this stand, another on that. If there would be no debts, there wouldn't be that defilements of compassion, if there is no more addiction to sugar, sensual pleasure, you would not be touched if your forest is cut of for sugar-can plantations.

Understand? And restlessness comes from having fallen into transgression.

Start to practice basic and seriously abstain from taking of what is not given, do not even nurish on stolen knowlege and prefer to starve, for there is not a little real wealth possible to gain, just a big hurting head.

There are assembling where neither the entertainer not the entertained know about of what they nurish on

I had translated this to English once while looking for good entertainment somewhere else and thinking to maybe inspire some co-addicts to sensual and intellectual entertainment to some different kind of thoughts ("If I don't understand it, maybe others could.").

Not quite sure about accuracy of translation:

Two kinds of guṇā, benefactors/sponsors: good and bad.

"Bad" benefactors/sponsors:

Sponsor/giver of (the objects of) the five strands of sensuality (eye, ear, nose, mouth, body and their objects)

Pañca kāmaguṇāPañca kāmaguṇā loke mano chaṭṭhā pamoditā,
Ettha chandaṃ virājetvā evaṃ dukkhā pamuccati.
(PTS: Snp. 173/ snp 1.9)

Persons, who are counted as (bad) sponsors/benefactors:

- Sponsor and bondage through form, entertainer of attention therein, indebtor
- Sponsor and bondage through sound..., smell..., taste...
- Sponsor and bondage through touch, entertainer of attention therein, indebtor

- And those, who praise pride and respect towards such sponsors and bondage, encourage it, even pay respect to them.

It should be noted that, longing for the pleasure from the gifts by these benefactors, reward/compensation (https://accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an05/an05.030.than.html) is redemanded, redress of debt, as long as (these are) pursued, required.

These five (six, the mind included) benefactors are those, towards whom ordinary beings pay gratitude and respect, honour them, devote themselves and pay attention.

Taken these gifts, associating with these benefactors, entertaining oneself/each other, giving gifts to these benefactors and meeting the debt to stay in bondage, one stays in the bond, in the bondage to the benefactor.

Not paying attention to the bad benefactors, not nourishing them, not cultivating sustenance, not holding on to them, not having to do with them, not taking gifts, not paying back obligations: this is, how one detaches onself and frees oneself from the sponsor of sensuality.

Conversely, for good benefacors, whom one should sustain, pay attention to them, that is, attributes and embodiments of generosity, moral virtue, composure/renunciation, wisdom/compassion.

Good benefactors, givers, sagguṇa:

guṇāggatā (best benefactors), uttamanguṇā (highest sponsor/bondage): guṇāḍḍha,dhammaguṇā  (givers of Dhamma)

The four blessings: vatthu (location), paccaya (ground), cetana (intention), guṇātireka (surpassing sponsor/bondage)

paguṇa: Synomymous for educated, instructed, taught, prudent (standing in connection)

paguṇaṃ karoti: familiarizing onself, learning by heart

paguṇabhāva: being familiar, being knowledgable

pabhanguṇā: easily disintegrating, easily destructible

Personen, die als (gute) Gönner gezählt werden:

- Preceders, seniors/superiors, leaders (not least by tolerating/giving allowance)
- parents, sustainers (not last for birth and body, means of living, for requisites: food, clothing, shelter, medicine)
- teachers (for teaching skills for sustaining livelihood)

- Dhamma teachers (for teaching of goodness, being benefactors, good Dhamma)
- People who practice keeping moral virtue (for the not-taking, not-injuring, ... giving of freedom from fear)
- People who live a renunciant life, devoting themselves next to moral virtue to renunciation of sensuality (for giving even more freedom from fear)
- Stream-entrants (Sharing their possession of freedom from fear through morality)
- Once-returners (like stream-entrants, possession of higher virtue, renunciation)
- Non-returners (absence of ill-will, absence of sensual passion)
- Arahat (absence of all non-benefactor attributes, perfect benefactor)

These are the persons who are benefactors towards the recipient, who possess beneficience/benevolence towards the recipient (in bondage/connection)

People from the person who practice keeping moral virtue upwards are therefore generally called "beneficient/benevolent one" or "master of compassion" ("karuna tvay bongkum" or something like that in Khmer - a common address for monks), in societies where good benefactors can be distinguished from bad ones.

karuṇā, beneficience/benevolence in action,  karuṇāguṇaja, "compassion, springing from beneficience/benevolence"

Devotion, respect and sacrifice towards those who are superior in beneficience/benevolence (guṇa-visiṭṭhānaṃ) is not only right view, but also a requirement for progress.

Recognizing good benefactors as good benefactors, and bad as bad, is right view, and the entrance to the path leading to liberation.

At this point should maybe noted that benefactors for the sixth sense, for spiritual materialism, can ultimately also appear as bad benefactors.

Only one who binds you towards liberation, therefore disappointment and disillusion, who "drags" you towards nibbana, is to be called a true giver, bhagava, rightly liberal, or rightly liberal liberated one.

May it maybe help some understand. Anuomdana.


Aramika   *

Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in Re: Wem oder was gegenüber sind Sie loyal?- In regard of what or whom are you loyal? , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!
The new topic (or post/s) here are originaly from Re: Wem oder was gegenüber sind Sie loyal?- In regard of what or whom are you loyal? . For eventual additionally information: please visit also the Topic of origin. Anumodana!
[Original post:]

I think you know what i will answer and i can guess what you will say after, seeing this i don't want to engage for this will lead to a lot of talk and restlessness. I rather save my energy for fighting demons and the Householders at DW are not demons, they are confused people and i have no resentment for them in my heart.

That's nice and good. How ever, why, as been asked serval times, is there certain resentment toward people of guṇa (goodness), starting by parents, teacher, the Gems? Even no resentment would be to less. Isn't it that people usually seek for refuge below, Nyom Ruslan . Are "only" loyal toward that what is assumed that it can be controled, that of what gives easy selfestimate?

So what is there that makes one loyal toward those below, maybe till equal?

My person guesses that Upasaka does neither know before what my person will say, is totally unattractive and in a firm grasped movie as his refuge and reality. But just a guess.

Not sure if abstaining from shows and movies. If they are consumed for increasing Samvega, it would be not really a break.

Look at how they sacrifice toward the mass below. Crazy or the normal deal?

Lyric, if wishing to turn of music and not liking to see "shows"

There are assembling where neither the entertainer not the entertained know about of what they nurish on, even if the signs, sounds, smells, tast, touches and ideas would carry the way out of being entertained (upādāna), to release. Even if it carries food for samvega as well.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"Gotami, the qualities of which you may know, 'These qualities lead to passion, not to dispassion; to being fettered, not to being unfettered; to accumulating, not to shedding; to self-aggrandizement, not to modesty; to discontent, not to contentment; to entanglement, not to seclusion; to laziness, not to aroused persistence; to being burdensome, not to being unburdensome': You may categorically hold, 'This is not the Dhamma, this is not the Vinaya, this is not the Teacher's instruction.'

"As for the qualities of which you may know, 'These qualities lead to dispassion, not to passion; to being unfettered, not to being fettered; to shedding, not to accumulating; to modesty, not to self-aggrandizement; to contentment, not to discontent; to seclusion, not to entanglement; to aroused persistence, not to laziness; to being unburdensome, not to being burdensome': You may categorically hold, 'This is the Dhamma, this is the Vinaya, this is the Teacher's instruction.'"

It's not possible for stingy people to reach Jhana, path and fruit, release.

That is why perfection in virtue leads to perfection in generosity.

Fallen into materialism, spirital materialims, possessing very much, as the Buddha often said, such people are for the most destinated to lose all their goodness (guṇa).

Attracted by vaṇṇa, there are really less willing to lead a real Dhamma-war and seek where there are real challenges. They prever to entertain and being entertained, like the pig-raiser and their pig, one existence this, then that. Nothing real and now futureal or just retrofuturish.

They have no idea when greed, hatred and delusion arises, not even if short released they remember what has going on. It's something different to be able to write and spell many in common convention or to see as it is, possible even share refuge, path and taste of release. That is why Dhamma-maccharia is the most ugly stinginess, one does not give if up to entertain or being entertained.
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March 21, 2018, 03:42:55 PM


March 21, 2018, 03:32:47 PM
 :-* mögen sie alle noch in diesem leben das herz von avijja befreien!!! :-*


March 19, 2018, 05:20:12 AM
This "wiki"-like backup tool is meant as a outwardy insurance that one does not be afraid that anything possible good can be desroyed or made bad while looking for cleaning it. So worry at all, kamma does not dissapear. No need to fear to make good deeds, knowing that.


March 19, 2018, 04:03:35 AM
And there is no intention to just make a museum out of a working and concentration camp, since the Dhamma can not be understood by just looking on forms but by learning and experiance skillful deeds.


March 19, 2018, 04:00:47 AM
Post-history: http://sangham.net/index.php/topic,1164.0.html (but there is no notification system). My person uses to make a @mention , off topic "/me" in the OP.


March 19, 2018, 03:49:28 AM
Or to simply make a new post. No need to be shy in doing good things. It's not a museum, it's a working and concentration place. Mudita.


March 19, 2018, 03:47:57 AM
There is such as a "wiki" backup function in all posts, Nyom Danilo. Good is to use the mention option, at the places where making changes @Johann , that it gets not "lost".


March 19, 2018, 03:02:46 AM
I have a backup of the original post in any case. I might review the second post next time. Very insightful teaching. _/\_


March 19, 2018, 03:01:35 AM
I've recently fixed many words and sentences of the first post of the thread "Debts, but to whom?". It take me some time trying to figure out the meaning of some sentences. So it would be good if Bhante could check if the original intended meaning of the post still intact. I have a backup of the ori


March 19, 2018, 01:57:28 AM
_/\_ _/\_ _/\_


March 19, 2018, 12:01:09 AM
One leading to peaks pointing downward so that aging, sickness and death can be seen, know him/her as a sage, a giver of release.


March 18, 2018, 11:57:30 PM
One leading people to papanca, promoting rejoicing in objectification as the heart wood, increases to fields of corpse in the world.


March 18, 2018, 12:03:14 AM
Good night _/\_


March 17, 2018, 11:59:14 PM
Vandami, Bhante _/\_


March 17, 2018, 11:51:37 PM


March 16, 2018, 01:19:17 AM


March 15, 2018, 09:53:07 PM
 :-* ich wünschen allen einen verdienstvollen uposatha  :-*


March 14, 2018, 11:19:11 PM
Sounds like a good idea to rest. I will be taking a break from the internet for a while i feel detached a lot from the worldly feminisms and all. It is wonderful not to be lusting, walking the streets with lowered gaze, delighting in meditation... I fear it compromises me to even think about the pol


March 14, 2018, 11:10:27 PM


March 14, 2018, 10:58:38 PM
Marcel, Morits, Upasaka X, it's time to break up this auspicious coming in touch now also for my person. Observe, remember, how you have been yesterday an now and guess of what will be tomorrow probably... maybe just not sure.


March 14, 2018, 10:06:46 PM
Sadhu, _/\_

may Bhante have a peaceful day.

Chom reap sour.


March 14, 2018, 09:58:42 PM
 :-* :-* :-*


March 14, 2018, 09:55:00 PM
O yes... will be a long day, this yesterday, but possible a remorseless.


March 14, 2018, 09:46:45 PM
Vandami Bhante,
good evening (morning in Cambodia?).



March 14, 2018, 03:03:38 AM
Wie war es gestern? Wie geht es heute?

How was it yesterday? How are you today?


March 06, 2018, 02:24:03 PM
Nyom Jens.


March 05, 2018, 02:25:22 PM
 :-* erhwürdiger bhante johann  :-*


March 05, 2018, 02:17:57 PM
Nyom Marcel


March 01, 2018, 12:52:02 AM
Sadhu, eine des Magha-puja allen jenen die sie heute Begehen.


February 28, 2018, 09:48:58 PM
 :-* allen ein verdienstvollen uposatha tag :-*


February 24, 2018, 02:37:41 AM


February 24, 2018, 01:31:25 AM


February 24, 2018, 12:50:00 AM
Es ist sehr selten, ungewöhnlich und erfreulich, zur Mitfreude anregend, junge Menschen Kloster aufsuchend zu sehen.


February 23, 2018, 02:56:54 PM
Namasakara, Bhante _/\_


February 23, 2018, 04:04:45 AM


February 23, 2018, 02:16:16 AM
Nyom Danilo.
(Atma will leave for a while for his almsround.)


February 22, 2018, 10:08:41 PM
 :-* ehrwürdiger bhante johann, ja ich ahb die khmer tastatur installiert! ich werde in den nächsten tagen text teilen und berichten!  :-*


February 22, 2018, 12:34:06 PM
Hat Nyom Marcel schon eine Khmer Tastatur installiert?


February 22, 2018, 12:32:21 PM
So ist das. Wenn Nahrung aufgebraucht, dann ist da für eine Weile Ende, und Wiedergeboren, es wieder brennen wird. Zum endgültigen legen des Feuers sind wir hier, oder? Pfau ruft, Gecko balzt, alles in Ordnung, oder?


February 22, 2018, 12:16:35 PM
 :-* ehrwürdiger bhante johann, letzte nacht davon geträumt, dass es beim ashram brennt!!
ich hoffe, das feuer hat sich gelegt  :-*


February 22, 2018, 11:43:37 AM
Nyom Marcel.


February 22, 2018, 09:08:57 AM


February 22, 2018, 08:49:51 AM
Möge Regen kommen und alle beschützt werden


February 22, 2018, 01:59:08 AM


February 22, 2018, 01:04:19 AM
ich  wünsche einen verdienstvollen uposatha!! all jende für morgen auch einen hervorragenden uposatha!!!
 :-* :-* :-*


February 19, 2018, 06:00:04 PM
Much joy and releasing touches here, Nyom Chris, my person will leave for today, befor it becomes tomorrow, and rest a little.


February 14, 2018, 03:57:33 PM
Sadhu, auch jenen, die ihn morgen, auch Chinesisches Neujahrsfest, begehen, einhalten.


February 14, 2018, 01:37:51 PM
einen verdienstvollen uposatha allen!!!


February 10, 2018, 12:31:09 PM
Sadhu! Mag er fruchtvoll verlaufen sein. Gerade wieder Möglichkeit erhalten, in dieser Welt hier beizutragen.


February 08, 2018, 12:46:43 PM
 :-* :-* :-* ich wünsche allen einen verdienstvollen uposatha  :-* :-* :-*

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