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Posted by: Johann
« on: April 30, 2017, 09:39:10 AM »

* Johann : Vol. 43 is already uploaded and linked . Nyom may upload it as attachment like done with 43 in that topic: [Guide] Step 1. Upload of doc-files - Status and tipps . Thats most easy and most informative for all, not email-problems and busyness can disturb.
Posted by: Norum
« on: April 30, 2017, 09:26:10 AM »

Namaskara Bhante,
Jom reap sour Senghour and Moritz,
It's nice to hear that, Seng hour interest in this project.
As Bhante Johann described, you can follow his guide, and if you don't understand or not sure some things in those texts, please feel free to ask me :)

I've sent Vol.43 via mail again and only Moritz can get it.
I'm going to send vol. 44 soon, so please inform me when you get it, thanks :)

 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Posted by: Johann
« on: April 29, 2017, 11:00:11 AM »

Nyom Senghour , if you Khmer-language skill is good, you could prove-read, best staring here: [sut.an.01] សុត្តន្តបិដក-អង្គុត្តរនិកាយ-ឯកកនិបាត . If finding an error, just make a post and quote the certain sutta there.
Another, more simple work, which nevertheless needs a lot of care, would be continuing the posting of the single suttas, best continuing here , using the text from the new uploaded book . Some info how to do here . Of course you could make both at the same time.
There are also many istruction topic, which are not transated for now into Khmer:
[Guide] Step 1. Upload of doc-files - Status and tipps

Antw:ជំហានទី៤ វឌ្ឍនភាពនៃការប្រតិចារឹកប្រព័ន្ធមួយដែល - Step 4 Progress quality transc.

[Guide] ព្រះត្រៃបិដកភាសាខ្មែរហ្វូរំមគ្គ-Tipitaka Khmer transcription forum guide

You also find a lot of information there, how and what to do.

This blocktext eould be also good to have in Khmer:

Quote from: Block Tipitaka-Khmer
Please feel welcome to join the transcription project of the Tipitaka translation in khmer, and share one of your favorite Sutta or more. Simply click here or visit the Forum:

If you have knowledge able members in your family who have Saddha (saddhea), it's good to invite them to maybe join the prove reading or what ever they feel inspired.

Nyom Norum seems to be busy this time but here are already 43 books which still need a lot of work to bring into good standard.

(Just to note, it's maybe good and proper to call Nyom "Tante")
Posted by: Senghour
« on: April 29, 2017, 05:23:53 AM »

Jom reap sur sister Norum, I like to join this work, please kindly tell me what I can help.

I appreciate a short instruction from you, since I am a new member.
Posted by: Johann
« on: January 11, 2017, 06:05:06 AM »

Offtopic "greeting" see here

Offtopic in regard of step 1 see here

Please use this topic just for general issues, like "I like to join the work, please tell me what can I help" or similar. For details please use the step topics according the main guide . Thanks for you patient and empathy in regard of coordinating this big and serious work.
Posted by: Norum
« on: January 10, 2017, 10:07:31 PM »

* Norum offtopic  
Quote from: ??
(*) I hope this is good and proper way of address, as Chanroth used such a way as well, I think :) please correct me if this is not right _/\_
Chanroth may be younger than me, that is why he calls me older sister. Cambodian people always calls older sister/brother or aunt/uncle grandma/grandpa to respect the older. In this situation i should call you older brother Moritz, and you call me just sister or younger sister :). It is the way khmer people address each other :)


In chhouk-krohom, only some parts are the same, but if you want, i will devide them into Sutta or Vagga,...

Have a nice time
Jom reap lea
Posted by: Johann
« on: January 09, 2017, 05:01:39 AM »

Yes, Moritz. So especially Upasika Norum can focus on her main work, and use the forum as a kind of relaxing from proufreading and to enjoy the sharing of her work and the burdens here we work out step by step. Just good internet connectio1 35% battery, so Atma will try to work out the guides and steps, which will make all more at ease.
Upasaka Chanroth will grow into all slowly and meanwhile helps with writing down on Sutta after another, so he finds time.

Please be patient with Atmas part here.
Posted by: Moritz
« on: January 08, 2017, 07:59:00 PM »

Thank you, Bhante, for explaining.

Quote
If Upasika likes, she could do it in the way of Step 3, it would provide the most current for all paticipator and gives all possible ways to help in progress.

Yes, if step 3 is first create topics for all remaining to be checked files / vaggas / suttas that would put all the work first into the most "common ground". It could be practical if getting used to the forum.

Chum reap lea. Good night for now.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Posted by: Johann
« on: January 08, 2017, 07:50:22 PM »

You have gained a good overview about how things are for now.

Do not stress you to much Moritz. Atma thinks that everybody here does to most possible any way and most of you have a lot of other things to do aside of the most skillful.

Quote from: Moritz
Of course I did not understand what Chanroth said,..
Atma added a translation befor in his post.

Quote from: Moritz
Norom could simply continue in her usual way and upload any new completed parts first there when they are finished.

If Upasika likes, she could do it in the way of Step 3, it would provide the most current for all paticipator and gives all possible ways to help in progress.

Quote from: Moritz
Chum reap lea (What does this mean? I hope it makes sense here.
Most proper "good by for now" or "prepearing my leave now.

Sok chomreoun, Njom (may sukha increase for you,  adressing of lay people by houseless, original for mother and father)
Jis mui moi (drive, 1,1, drive slowly)


Posted by: Moritz
« on: January 08, 2017, 05:26:47 PM »

Namassakara older sister (*) Norom and older brother (*) Chanroth,

I hope I will find now something useful to say.

After looking around a bit I have seen, older sister (*) Norom already has structured her website in the same way as the Chaṭṭha Saṅgāyana Tipiṭaka online version like here or here . So that is a very useful division also for this integration here as articles.
Since I think Norom already has a clear way of integrating the Tipitaka on her website, maybe it could be the most proper way to create the articles here by copying the text (so far it is already finished) directly from the website chhoukh-krohom.de. So that older sister (*) Norom could simply continue in her usual way and upload any new completed parts first there when they are finished.

About the integrating here, since it is a little bit more than just copy and paste (but also working on the internal format, HTML/CSS code, and adding some other info), I still have to think a bit, and maybe it would also be possible to do some big part of it by programming (but for sure many things left to do by hand). I think, since this is still unclear, it would be good for Norum just to continue on in her usual way on her website, and just report whenever something new is finished.

Quote
Before i upload them(41-end), I need to know the system, how the people work in this Forum. One Vol. by one vol. or one Sutta by Sutta? So that i can manage to post file (a whole file) or better articles (Chapter).
Upasaka Chanroth, if you are ready for this team work, please reply me, we have to stay in contact. It is important!​ Thank you.

About the files: It is most practical if everything is separated in the same way as the Chatta Sangayana in the end, so the same way that it is in your website. So for Digha Nikaya, one file per sutta. For Majjhima Nikaya, one file per Vagga. For Samyutta Nikaya, one file per Samyutta ..., I think that is the most useful if it is already separated that way. So if you could separate the files that still need to be checked in this way, I think that would be great and most helpful.

For working together here on correcting: I think it is the right way to do create single topics for this here like you and Chanroth and Bhante Johann have done here and here , if I understand correctly, if I understand correctly, so where you post the text and correction for single sutta/vagga or what it is in any case. And best then also create a topic with a list that could be always updated and marked, which sutta/vagga/samyutta/... is already corrected, and which still needs checking, and with links to the single topics for each sutta/vagga that are being worked on here.
I hope that it is practical. I just think that this is the best way that the forum can be made use of for it as a coordination platform.
Maybe it could also be more practical for you to work on the checking/correcting directly in the docx files (but as suggested, I think better to be separated in the same way as they should be integrated afterwards, according to the way of Chatta Sangayana Tipitaka and your website structure). There is now software that Chanroth hopefully could use to also work directly on docx files. (But I still need to explain this (and still have not really tried it out myself). But in any case it should be possible for him, at least theoretically and with some explaining, to read and copy from docx files.
But of course I do not know how much time he has, or other busyness and difficulties. (And for me here, it is actually the same. I have a lot of things to do that I am losing out of focus.) And I hope we can coordinate in a good way to work all with best of our possibilities and a clear direction to be able to be most independent while still informing all necessary for coordination.

Of course I did not understand what Chanroth said, and Chanroth will not understand this here. So Norum, it would be helpful if you could translate or (because it is maybe very much) to try and explain it to each other what is relevant in the best short clear way, whenever it is time. I know it can be complicated, so don't worry to let it wait maybe. Thank you. _/\_

(*) I hope this is good and proper way of address, as Chanroth used such a way as well, I think :) please correct me if this is not right _/\_

Thank you both and may you have peaceful times and no stress. And don't hesitate to ask for clarifications or suggest what is practical for you, or tell that you have no time at the moment and will come back maybe later, if it is too much.

Chum reap lea (What does this mean? I hope it makes sense here. :) )

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_


PS: I see, Bhante has already written some more directions/suggestions that could be helpful here and here (or maybe double post and both the same) while I have written this. So I hope what I wrote is compatible with this. :) I will come back on it later, now have to go to some other occupations.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Posted by: Johann
« on: January 08, 2017, 11:24:29 AM »

Aramika   *

Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "Was ist die Bedeutung von 'Namasami' - What is the meaning of 'Namasami' " eröffnet. Bitte scheuen Sie nicht davor zurück, etwaigen Rat oder Kritik dazu mitzuteilen.  Viel Freude und Inspiration auch im neuen Thema. Anumodana!

One or more posts have been cut out of this topic here. A new topic, based on it, has been created as "Was ist die Bedeutung von 'Namasami' - What is the meaning of 'Namasami' " . Please do not hesitate to claim or give supporting hints.  Much joy and inspiration also in the new Topic. Anumodana!
Posted by: Moritz
« on: January 08, 2017, 10:47:12 AM »

_/\_

_/\_

Namassami (what does this word mean? I have read it somewhere. Maybe it is correct here, or not) Chanroth!
Hello Norom!

I am at the moment trying to understand the system. It can take some time.

I will come back later. :)

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Posted by: Chanroth
« on: January 08, 2017, 04:09:34 AM »

 _/\_

[Übersetzung des Audios in text von Johann begefügt]
Ich, Chanroth , möchte Upasika Norum grüßen, Grüß geht auch an Upasaka Moritz. Die Upasakas haben vor mir gesprochen, sodaß ich mich zum äußern bewegt fühle.
Das ist Wirklichkeit, der Wahrheit entsprechend sind all diese Geschichten, so ich die ersten Schritte hier mache. Der Ehrwürdige Herr bewegt mich dazu, führt mich dazu an, um die Möglichkeit des Benutzens vom Internet zu lernen. Tatsächlich verstehe ich den Gebrauch und die Wissenschaften um das Internet zu benutzen nicht so besonders, jedoch wie der Ehrwürdige Herr weiß, habe ich im Bereich der Buddhasasana gelernt und mir auch etwas davon gemerkt, und der ehrwürdige Herr leitet mich dazu an,   daß Tipitaka, hier auf dieser Webseite richten und ordnen zu können, um dieses zu wahren und weiter geben zu können, und ich erfreue mich daran, dieses zum Wohle aller Wesen dieser Welt machen zu können.
Und ja, ich möchte mich an Moritz richten und Dank in die Ferne aussprechen, daß er für mich seine Zeit opfert. Englisch oder andere Sprachen kann ich nicht, doch über das Tablet ersceint mir Englisch oder Deutsch in Khmersprache (Anm.:  Chanroth hat das Nutzen der googletranslate Möglichkeit hier im Forum, die sicher unsicher ist, was er auch erfahren hat darüber, nutzen).
Um mich an Uasika Norum zu richten, wegen aller Probleme, wie das Richten in einzelnen Suttas oder Vaggas usw. , im Bezug auf all diese Dinge, werde ich mich mit dem Ehrw. Herr absprechen, sodaß es angenehm für die Arbeit des Ordnens ist. So möchte ich mich in meiner Arbeit, für diese wichtige Tätigkeit bemühen und helfen. Auch wenn ich nicht viel Zeit habe, zur Zeit, ist es wichtig Zeit zu opfern um Gewissnhaftes/Sknnvolles zu tun, sich mit dem Dhamma zu beschäftigen, dem Tipitaka hier. So möchte ich mich für all meine Mängel un Fehler meinerseits bei Upasika und Upasaka Moritz entschuldigen und um geduldige (kanti) Entschuldigung, Nachsicht bitten, da ich noch am Anfang stehe. Wenn ich mich wach rüttle, hatte ich noch nie Freunde, Kalayanamitta in der Ferne und gebrauchte dabei Internet. Und ich bitte sich frei zu fühlen, jederzeit Fehler aufzuzeigen.
Ich möchte allen, die ich hier kenne, so wie Upasika Sophorn , Upasika Norum, Upasaka Moritz, aus der Ferne beste Gesundheit und gute Fügung (Glück) wünschen.
Posted by: Johann
« on: January 07, 2017, 12:01:22 PM »

Moritz, Norum

Sadhu!

Joyful to see you care for each other. Chanroth had, how ever, cut him of from all communications, even has given away his handy. Young man... and a new life. Not easy, and he is busy all the time with his small beloved home. And email and Cambodians, 1 in a 10.000 uses such to communicate.  Please understand that there is actually no history of communication and know usuall to use even letters. Using internet uses the verb "play", generally. So its hard, but possible. How ever, Atma, even its going to be dark already, will walk down and tell him, encourage him, try to install it and sacrify this work night, so that he might maybe start to get more used to it.

Its good to let you eager and joyful people do for a while by your self, actually nearly all edvices and guides had been made by Atma already here and there,  of course they sometimes need to be modified to the current situation aaaand translated.
Please be not sad, if he is not to motivate for now. You know, kusala and work like this here, es he told him self is very seldom in this world. One would not see to door for one self.

Much mutida
Posted by: Norum
« on: January 07, 2017, 01:10:10 AM »

Quote from: ??
Sorry I am asking so much.
It's ok Moritz, I'm glad that i can help you.

Plauderbox

 

Johann

October 16, 2018, 03:15:10 PM
Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 12, 2018, 04:13:16 PM
Good to see Nyom Norum.
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Maybe of support for lasting satifaction: Seeds of Becoming .
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
When ever love arises, dislike will be it's end. Who ever seeks out for friends, will get his enemy. Why? Because not willing to leave home. May wanderer gus find the way to never return. Mudita

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:58 AM
Vandami.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:22 AM
Nevertheless my courage of active participation  has been fallen down. Anyway I hope to come time to time.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam khamata me bhante.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:37:11 AM
Okasa bhante,

I didn't accepted Dymitros invitation to start a Theravada forum, because I thought this forum is pure Theravada. Now I regret about it, yet think this forum is comparatively good.  I learnt many valuable things from you and grateful to you. Nevertheless my courage of active partici
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 02:20:29 AM
What ever one searches for, that he/she will find. Less are those seeing the nature of combined thing, leaving home and go beyond Maras domain.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:45:18 PM
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:39:12 PM
When one is born in outer regions ... your island has drifted away.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:30:00 PM
macchariya, a boarder hard to cross to the middle way, abounding home, sakayaditthi, doubt and rituals.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
However much one say, West is West, East is East.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
Where ever there is east, there is west. And vici versa. Where ever there is nama, there is rupa. Where ever one seeks for a home, there he will suffer.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:03:31 PM
West is West

gus

October 06, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
belief of kamma, gratitude, independence, honesty, devotion : These are hard to find in people
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Again, a latin proverb mit be useful: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi , patisota is always harmful if not just one own defilements or having a proper stand to help. Sota is the virtue required to resist in borderlands.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:41:52 AM
If in a borderland it's better to simply serve and support the Sangha. It's not smart to seek for other householders to nurish on traced imperfections of something required to uphold, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 04:54:48 AM
Okasa, happy to hear such things reagarding kamma. Many monks I have met don't directly speak about kamma because they have been tired after practicing some years and now bit relaxed.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:17:26 AM
Such can be total kusala and total akusala or simply defuse. Set your mind right and be mindful, that nothing will be of harm for yourself and others.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:15:27 AM
There is nothing not permitted. Merits or demerits are the actors responsibility. One is full in charge of ones action in this Domain here, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 03:50:00 AM
Bhante, is it permitted to ask questions or post things on behalf of other/future people ?

gus

October 05, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
We have been advised like this:
"No matter however much monks reject you,
Never leave the place."
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
It's good when wanderer gus takes a rest, turns to a lonly place, enjoys the merits done and find a good place for his mind and fixes possible open wholes when clear where he likes to go some hours later.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
Wanderer Gus knows how foolish this statement is. That is not the way to get out of a hole.

gus

October 05, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
okasa,
falling down from a status is suffering.
So, if I could stay in the hell-being status from the beginning, then no suffering.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:33:20 AM
From a state of a young Bhikkhu equal tradition...to householder... ...asura (now) on the border to animal, peta, hell-state. It can go quick if not having firm nissaya.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
Aniccam vatta samsara...

gus

October 05, 2018, 06:56:28 AM
Evolution:
Bhante subhuti =>
Upasaka gus =>
Deva gus =>
Asura gus.

In the future:
Asura gus =>
Peta gus =>
Animal gus =>
Hell-being gus ???

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:51:42 AM
Okasa, I think bhante thinks me as a patriot because of some content of my posts. But it is not.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 05:41:33 AM
What ever one likes to, not touched like the moon, does not mean to praise what is blameworthy and vici-versa and to have metta not to let people run into hell if ways can be pointed out. Yet other choices at least are their. Be quick, your island drifts away!

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:34:15 AM
Okasa,
As long as I don't do exactly what you say, I think I'll not be able to make you happy or satisfied.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
If thinking that this is for sure, if delighting in believing that connected things are a refuge and give space to rest: one may do so. Ones own choice. When ever one stops to nurish inwardly, ouwardly path and fruits die. Good as well as bad.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:28:51 AM
If bhante didn't let the weak person to live in avatar/deva mode, then he will lose both openness and connection. Up to now I have secured at least the connection.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
Yet I appreciate and pay vandana for your care and advice on openness.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
Please forgive me  bhante if I have made you tired. I don't like to accumulate akusala by making a monk tired in expecting a naughty chicken to be a good duck.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam Khamtu me bhante!
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:07:06 AM
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Differnt asked "why is Bhante not happy, dwell not in outwardly seeming being not touched?" Because it would not only confirm and show sign of aggreement of unwise acts, but also very incompassionate and cruel. Also place for suspecting corrupt ways and invite others to follow the comfortable dwelli
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:54:12 AM
No one is able to make my person angry, which does not mean that he would not appear angry so to possible prevent from doing what is not conductive for liberation, even lead in lower states. Nothing to worry, but also no invitation to test it foolish since it could hurt one self and others.

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:46:39 AM
Okasa bhante, Isn't there at least single way to stay anonymous without making you angry?
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
corr: "it's, the domain of the Noble Ones, is nobody's personal domain" there are no wards around fields for merits and no tickets to pay
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
What ever Deva gus feels inspired. It's oneones personal domain and all giving is good in the distance of the brigh cool moon. One should not fear, should not be shy to do what is good and praised by the wise but be quick!

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Bhante, is that mean you don't like me to talk about higher subjects and like to talk about basics only?
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:02:12 AM
It would be more than good if teaching others a lot on the topic vandami (paying respect) and khamatu (asking for forgiviness) since unknown and not practiced here around this field of merits in compassion to former relatives, Deva gus.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
...total no problem to dwell and lay down in the cool shadow to heal at all and no need to ask for pardon when intended for progressing and to get fit for the battles so hard to win.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
But they would not feed them in ways which might look as nurishing relations for wordly sake directly, for people not understanding would think "look, he is herding, carry for his cattle, he wasts the gift of the land, the heritage of the Gems for his becoming and own gain. Understood? Total no prob
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
Never would people of integrity send away pets, petas or sick, for they are not able to change for now but possible can gain of what they need to change.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
If, just to think about, one lives deliberatly with sign showing a rejection of firm trust in kamma, one lives in nurishing the danger of falling into grave wrong views and give ways that others follow what is improper to do. Just to reflect. How ever wishing to do.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:36:03 AM
What ever one does, holds as refuge or abounds, either good or bad refuge, one does for one self. Ones own choices, ones own fruits, ones own limitations, hindrences.

gus

October 04, 2018, 09:28:15 AM
Khamatu me bhante!
My previous  post was this.
"Please forgive me and give birth to kindness ao as to let me live here anonymous "
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:21:35 AM
... doing so based on gratitude without just trading in giving, or out of duty in a relation one resits, one is able to get not only to the borders, but into Noble ones domain.

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