Pāḷi; √ attaniya
alt. sp.: IPA: ət̪t̪ən̪ɪjə, Velthuis: attaniya, readable: attaniya, simple: attaniya
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by late Ven. Nyanalokita Thera:
by the Pali Text Society:
by Ven. Thanissaro Maha Thera:
by Ven. Varado Maha Thera:
Attaniya: DOP vs. PED
Our renderings are close to DOP’s ‘belonging to’, and far from PED’s ‘nature of.’
You and yours are interchangeable
The Buddha compared the five aggregates to the sticks and grass of Jeta’s Grove which people carried off, burned, and made good use of (jano hareyya vā ḍaheyya vā yathāpaccayaṁ vā kareyya). The Buddha asked the bhikkhus why they did not think ‘People are carrying us off, burning us, making good use of us’ (amhe jano harati vā ḍahati vā yathāpaccayaṁ vā karotī ti). The bhikkhus said this was because with sticks and grass there was ‘neither ourselves nor what belongs to ourselves’ (na hi no etaṁ bhante attā vā attaniyaṁ vā ti). The Buddha concluded that each of the five aggregates ‘is not [in reality] yours. Abandon it’ (rūpaṁ… viññāṇaṁ bhikkhave na tumhākaṁ. Taṁ pajahatha).
‘Could,’ not ‘would’
Horner’s translation of MN i 138 reads:
• “If, monks, there were a Self, could it be said: ‘It belongs to my self’?”
attani vā bhikkhave sati attaniyaṁ me ti assā ti? (Horner, MN i 138)
Bodhi’s translation reads:
• “Bhikkhus, there being a self, would there be for me what belongs to a self? Or, there being what belongs to a self, would there be for me a self?”
attani vā bhikkhave sati attaniyaṁ me ti assā ti? attaniye vā bhikkhave sati attā me ti assā ti? (Bodhi, MN i 138)
He justifies this by saying there is a “mutual dependence” between the “twin notions ‘I’ and ‘mine’” (Bodhi, MLDB n.264).
But the first of his ‘would’s is not easily justified, and here we follow Horner’s ‘could.’ Our translation therefore reads:
• Bhikkhus, if there were an [absolute] Selfhood, could there be for me what belongs to an [absolute] Selfhood?
attani vā bhikkhave sati attaniyaṁ me ti assā ti?
• Yes, bhante.
• If there were what belongs to an [absolute] Selfhood, would there be for me an [absolute] Selfhood?
attaniye vā bhikkhave sati attā me ti assā ti?
• Yes, bhante.
• Bhikkhus, since neither an [absolute] Selfhood, nor what could belong to an [absolute] Selfhood are apprehended as real and actual,
attani ca bhikkhave attaniye ca saccato thetato anupalabbhamāne
… then this view: ‘The world [of phenomena] is my [absolute] Selfhood. Having passed on, that I will be―everlasting, enduring, eternal, of an unchangeable nature; I will endure like unto eternity itself’:
yampidaṁ diṭṭhiṭṭhānaṁ so loko so attā so pecca bhavissāmi nicco dhuvo sassato avipariṇāmadhammo sassatisamaṁ tatheva ṭhassāmī ti
… is it not an utterly and completely foolish teaching?
nanāya bhikkhave kevalo paripūro bāladhammo ti?. (MN i 138)
Illustration: attanīyaṁ, [in reality] mine
Among these five grasped aggregates, I do not consider anything as [in reality] myself or as [in reality] mine
imesu khohaṁ āvuso pañcasupādānakkhandhesu na kiñci attānaṁ vā attanīyaṁ vā samanupassāmīti. (SN iii 128)
Illustration: anattaniyaṁ, which is not [in reality] yours
You should abandon fondness
• for that which is void of personal qualities
Yo kho bhikkhu anattā tatra te chando pahātabbo ti.
• for that which is not [in reality] yours
Yaṁ kho bhikkhu anattaniyaṁ tatra te chando pahātabbo ti. (SN iii 77-78)
Illustration: nāttaniyaṁ, [in reality] his own
Suppose, friend, a man needing heartwood, seeking heartwood, wandering in search of heartwood, would take a sharp axe and enter a forest. There he would see the trunk of a large banana tree, standing erect, young, without a fruit-bud core. He would chop it down at the root, sever the crown, and unroll the coil. As he unrolls the coil, he would not find even softwood, let alone heartwood.
So tattha pheggumpi nādhigaccheyya kuto sāraṁ.
Likewise, a bhikkhu does not consider the six senses to be either [in reality] himself or [in reality] his own.
Evameva kho āvuso bhikkhu chasu phassāyatanesu neva attānaṁ nāttaniyaṁ samanupassati. (SN iv 167-8)
Illustration: attaniyena, what could belong to an [absolute] Selfhood
‘Void [of personal qualities] is the world [of phenomena]’: on what grounds, bhante, is this said?
suñño loko suñño loko ti bhante vuccati kittāvatā nu kho bhante suñño loko ti vuccatī ti?
Because, Ānanda, it is void of an [absolute] Selfhood and of what could belong to an [absolute] Selfhood, therefore it is said that the world [of phenomena] is void [of personal qualities].
Yasmā ca kho ānanda suññaṁ attena vā attaniyena vā tasmā suñño loko ti vuccati. (SN iv 54)
The subject of this reflection is the world [of phenomena] (loko), namely the eighteen elements of sensation.
Suttas and Dhammadesanā