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2019 Apr 25 07:32:44
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻អរព្រះគុណ ព្រះអង្គ

2019 Apr 25 04:42:51
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom. (May well-being come to fullfillment.)

2019 Apr 25 02:30:46
Ieng Puthy: តេីលោកRoman មានបំណងទៅវត្តអកយំនៅថ្ងៃណាដែរ?ព្រះអង្គ🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Apr 25 02:29:26
Ieng Puthy: ករុណានិង បងសុភឿន នឹងជូនលោកRoman ទៅវត្តអកយំបាន

2019 Apr 25 02:28:00
Ieng Puthy: ករុណានិង បង សុភឿន នឹងជួយស

2019 Apr 25 02:27:00
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុព្រះអង្គ Vandami Bhante

2019 Apr 24 17:56:05
Cheav Villa: កូណា សរសេរពួកយើង​ គឺជំនួសមុខ​ បងពុទ្ធីនិងសុភឿន  _/\_

2019 Apr 24 17:54:42
Cheav Villa: បង​ពុទ្ធី បានអោយកូណាសួរអំពីពេលវេលា​ ដែលលោកRoman នឹងទៅអកយំ _/\_

2019 Apr 24 17:52:47
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_  កូណាបាន ប្រាប់បងពុទ្ធី និង​សុ​ភឿន ប្រសិនបើគាត់អាចជួយបាន ព្រោះកូណាមិនមានសេរីភាពច្រើនដូចពួកគាត់

2019 Apr 24 17:01:34
Johann: Modern (ab)art of conversation and old patient culture...  :) great training only serious take on and rushing hide on messanger, fb, or in the ocean of Maras internet. Mudita.  :)

2019 Apr 23 13:36:18
Cheav Villa: Kana :D _/\_

2019 Apr 23 13:24:57
Johann: ? But light is always good. Oh, maybe the honey bee candles...: Atma told Upasika Sophorn to take them with her to share, since the mices would eat them away here. Mudita

2019 Apr 23 12:52:51
Cheav Villa: Kana Preah Ang  _/\_ Vithou told kana that Bhante sending us a pair of candles all through Bang Sophorn  :D _/\_

2019 Apr 23 12:06:15
Johann: Nyom Villa. Atma does not understand all circumstances but much mudita and appreciantion with sharing merits with each other, taking each other along good.

2019 Apr 23 11:04:23
Cheav Villa: កូណា ទើបបានដំណឹងពី Vithou ថាព្រះអង្គផ្ញើទានមួយគូមក តាមរយៈ​បងសុភ័ណ​ ខ្ញុំកូណា​សូម​អរព្រះគុណ​  :) _/\_

2019 Apr 23 11:02:19
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 23 02:03:31
Johann: Nyom. (smilies of the common places are not visible here for many)

2019 Apr 22 17:36:16
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bhante

2019 Apr 22 15:54:07
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz  _/\_

2019 Apr 22 15:03:17
Moritz: _/\_ Bong Villa

2019 Apr 20 07:30:33
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 20 05:25:34
Moritz: _/\_ bong Vithou

2019 Apr 19 06:30:18
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Apr 19 06:25:58
Moritz: _/\_ bong Villa

2019 Apr 19 06:25:48
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 19 02:23:14
Cheav Villa:  សាធុ​ៗ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 19 01:42:18
Johann: Another fullmoon, another chance. It's not sure that breaking apart will make it the last. May all spend a auspicious Uposatha.

2019 Apr 17 15:33:54
Chanroth:  _/\_ bong Moritz

2019 Apr 17 15:32:22
Chanroth:  _/\_bong villa

2019 Apr 17 15:31:07
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 17 07:11:18
Johann: Bhante

2019 Apr 17 05:05:51
Johann: Bhante  _/\_

2019 Apr 17 02:16:55
Johann: May all bring some merits left into this new year for them!

2019 Apr 12 17:30:17
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 12 14:39:05
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa

2019 Apr 12 14:27:27
Cheav Villa:  _/\_  Master Moritz

2019 Apr 12 14:26:24
Moritz: _/\_ Bong Villa

2019 Apr 12 14:26:12
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 12 14:09:15
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 12 01:54:32
Johann: A meritful Sila-day and much rightly joy by doing merits.

2019 Apr 09 08:24:39
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Apr 09 08:14:00
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 06 19:12:07
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 06 08:32:11
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 06 07:44:05
Johann: _/\_ Bhante Indannano, Bhante Khemakumara

2019 Apr 06 06:51:05
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 05 14:37:22
Khemakumara: Nyom Roman

2019 Apr 05 14:35:22
Johann: Bhante, Meister Roman

2019 Apr 05 14:18:13
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 05 09:58:10
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 Apr 05 09:55:43
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 05 09:53:07
Khemakumara: Nyom Moritz

2019 Apr 05 07:23:13
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 05 05:41:00
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Apr 04 02:43:01
Johann: May all spend a meritful old month over New month birth day this day.

2019 Apr 03 21:09:04
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 03 13:50:42
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 03 13:23:48
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Apr 03 13:07:53
Khemakumara: Tomorrow is new moon uposatha,  take this noble opportunity to come together in khema (peaceful).  It is not common,  that living beings are in contact with Buddha,  Dhamma, Sangha.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 02 15:20:21
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 02 05:09:56
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Apr 02 04:40:57
Moritz: Good morning Bhante and Chanroth _/\_ And good night to me. :)

2019 Apr 01 17:12:00
Moritz: Good evening Bhante. _/\_

2019 Apr 01 15:16:08
Johann: Nyom Chanroth, Nyom Villa (mudita that those wishing to stay in touch are able here)

2019 Apr 01 04:29:01
Johann: One not having overcome sakayaditthi is not capable to judge right and will always be corrupt.

2019 Mar 31 01:02:21
Johann: One would not let go of ones stand/home.

2019 Mar 31 01:00:01
Johann: As long as Saddha does not arise, it's not right view but stuck in "panna".

2019 Mar 30 10:03:35
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Mar 30 08:48:04
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 30 08:28:03
Johann: Samvega, yes, Nyom. If there is no pasada. Cheating is of no help but selfish motivated. Maybe Affirming the Truths of the Heart: The Buddhist Teachings on Samvega  

2019 Mar 30 08:13:03
Kong Sokdina: Vandami Bhante    :D បើចង់ អោយចេះប្រមាណ បើបាន អោយចេះគ្រប់ ជៀរាងការកើតទុក្ខនាំមកនូវសេចក្ដីខកចិត្ត(depressed mood) ។

2019 Mar 29 06:06:43
Johann: Like a path would disappear fastly in the forest, the path for many unseen if nobody steps on it.

2019 Mar 29 06:04:31
Johann: Because Uppekha isn't the highest and nobody would benefit from it.

2019 Mar 29 06:03:18
Johann: And why the even Noble ones and Arahats continue asking, answering, coss-question, giving Anumodana, critic?

2019 Mar 29 00:41:54
Johann: Once knowing good and bad, no more independency of approve of others, thanks, praise for ones sacrifices.

2019 Mar 29 00:40:05
Johann: What ever one does, one does for him/herself. Knowing this it's importand to give praise and approve to ones own skillful deeds, shame and disprove to bad.

2019 Mar 28 08:51:12
Moritz: I am leaving my computer to work without me. May all have a good Uposatha day. _/\_

2019 Mar 28 08:00:48
Moritz: Ja, gut angekommen. Noch nicht ganz umgestellt. :) Bald wieder los zum Taxifahren. _/\_

2019 Mar 28 07:45:55
Johann: Meister Moritz. Gut angekommen und wieder umgestellt?

2019 Mar 28 07:28:51
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 28 00:47:42
Johann: May all spend a meritful Sila-day and be able to recoice with their beauty of having given all being the gift of the Uposatha-Silas.

2019 Mar 26 01:18:56
Cheav Villa:  :D _/\_

2019 Mar 26 01:18:46
Cheav Villa: មិនខុសពីរឿងទៅសុំសៀវភៅសន្ទនានុក្រម នៅវ ត្ត បញ្ញា​ និង..

2019 Mar 26 01:16:15
Cheav Villa: កូណា ជារឿងដែលម្នាក់បានទទួលស្តាប់ និងធ្វើតាមតែមិនបានសំរេច តាមគោលដៅ :D _/\_

2019 Mar 25 15:28:24
Johann: Others, even if pure, is open for critic and bad assumings. Envy, jealously... on each side. So to become not susbected, needs good advices, double hard for woman to act perfect.

2019 Mar 25 15:23:21
Johann: Pappies can give good lessons when they don't fall, but the deeper, the hard training, must come from liberal mommies for daughters and liberal pappies for sons, in the world and for beyond.

2019 Mar 25 15:11:15
Cheav Villa:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 15:04:40
Johann: Does mommy generally don't actually love her child when not react?

2019 Mar 25 15:03:13
Johann: Mommy, mommy... but I like... ohh, they bite me... I am hungry... when do we go back?... why must we sit here... mommy!

2019 Mar 25 15:00:37
Johann: Which can be changed all the time, with feeding rightly.

2019 Mar 25 14:55:50
Cheav Villa: កូណាសង្ឃឹមថា.​ ជារឿងឧបនិស្ស័យ.​  :D _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:50:25
Johann: ...teaching and mirror.

2019 Mar 25 14:49:40
Johann: When one is stressed or busy, remember how many times one him/herself was so as well. Intention will always has it's effects, sometimes quick, sometimes even sisters, mother and child... Nyom wouldn't have become here, if there would be not long, long bounds. Watch your child. Thats always a great t

2019 Mar 25 14:40:41
Cheav Villa: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:39:48
Cheav Villa: ព្រោះកូណាមិនអាចទៅឱរ៉ាល់បានកំឡុងពេលនេះ តែអាចជួបនៅភ្នំពេញបាន តែចេតនាម្ខាងមិនចង់ជួប ទើបមិនអាចជួប

2019 Mar 25 14:38:39
Cheav Villa: កូណាគ្រាន់តែចង់បញ្ជាក់អំពីចេតនា ដែលម្នាក់មាន និងម្នាក់គ្មាន ក្នុងការ​ជួបគ្នា.ជាហេតុមិនបានជួប :D _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:37:02
Cheav Villa:    _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 13:44:16
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Foot well again?

2019 Mar 25 11:56:36
Johann: Good stories: The Healing of the Bull and Prisoners of Karma .

2019 Mar 25 11:51:20
Johann: Although monks are allowed to explain how to work oneself out, they are not given to liberate "slaves", prisoner, as this would count as thief.

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Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« on: October 06, 2018, 06:45:58 AM »
from the Talk box today:

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Bhante, is it permitted to ask questions or post things on behalf of other/future people ?

Quote from: Johann
There is nothing not permitted. Merits or demerits are the actors responsibility. One is full in charge of ones action in this Domain here, wanderer gus.

Such can be total kusala and total akusala or simply defuse. Set your mind right and be mindful, that nothing will be of harm for yourself and others.

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Okasa, happy to hear such things reagarding kamma. Many monks I have met don't directly speak about kamma because they have been tired after practicing some years and now bit relaxed.

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If in a borderland it's better to simply serve and support the Sangha. It's not smart to seek for other householders to nurish on traced imperfections of something required to uphold, wanderer gus.

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Again, a latin proverb mit be useful: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi , patisota is always harmful if not just one own defilements or having a proper stand to help. Sota is the virtue required to resist in borderlands.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

One   should not make an effort everywhere,
   should not be another's hireling,
   should not live dependent on another,
   should not go about
      as a trader in the Dhamma.

It's good to read the sutta often. The King can be also an inwardly.

It's total no problem to act or ask on behave of Noble Ones, honest, serious, those not intetested for or against the world, not interested in fighting something outwardly or seeking of justice or revange.

If acting on behave, asking on behave of others who might not be able to do so directly or would appear as acting improper, to help, assist, serve for Noble purpose is highly meritious.

Just be sure that not acting as a hireling or trader.

Althought a certain monk would not act in defeat or personal wishing to punish such a "ugly" person, the kamma one accumulates either as King or as someone working like a agent or even double agent for wordily gain, is not a lite and very harmful for one.

Be always honest and open, what ever problem their might be, for such a person is protected by the Devas and the Gems while those impure acting are sure to get the wage of foolish deeds very quick. Don't hide, or try to hide behind something you aren't.

That counts as well for Bhikkhus and recluse who walk with hidden face in householder domains. Total ugly and not a little to inspire faith or make it firm.

Dogs bit only those who show signs of fear or ill-will. Fear has a reason. If ones faith in kamma is really firm, ones virtue has no faults and that is why a virtuous person can approach ever kind of gathering, housholders, noble soldiers, Brahmans, Devas, Samanas, Bhikkhus... upright, self-confident.

Are there certain doubts left, wanderer gus ? Is it understandable and can the reasons and aims of this advices be seen?

Also in regard of possible skilful or unskilful prompted (deliberately) or unprompted (reacting) causes and their related effects, or if made defuse or based on strong diṭṭha (samma or miccha, or beyond)?

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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2018, 06:53:15 AM »
There are a lot of encouragements to help Bhikkhus and those worthy to serve: organise them access, helping to deliver, act as messenger...

Such it not only proper, a duty, if in a certain formal relation, but a very fruitful field of merits.

(Western/modern teachers, the Niganthas/Jains, call it mostly unskilful and modern/western people find service and running for worthy purpose and worthy people also as "not to do", but simply to cut of the connection between borderlands and Noble Domain. So be careful = watch the frames of references, your, not try to judge others.)
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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2018, 07:46:34 AM »
Areas and Topics specially dedicated for acting and asking on behave of others (inviting to join merits...)



At least, not to forget, the whole acting here, wether as lay person, visitor, member, or as novice, Samana, Bhikkhu, all actions are wisely performed as a service for the field worthy of gifts, the Noble Sangha and it's conventional representative, the Savaka Sangha of Bhikkhus of the eight directions and their good following.

In specific cases, one might just open a topic and it would be placed as proper as possible also if maybe "wrong" placed.

Of cource the Ven. Members of the Sangha of the eight directions are invited and given to make use of all possibilities without the need of doubt wether it is given or not.

Also their following and interested people.

Look invitations on many places here.

"There is nothing good if not done by oneself"
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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2018, 08:04:28 AM »
Sila first! If having or observing silas, then what ever giving will fill up the tank full.

If wishing to make just Dāna or service in frames of giving without duty for it, and up to certain gain this or that, that is fine as well, but consider that there are many, many places which are of "need" of such and living on performing generosity in exchange and you may easier gain desired there, what ever seeked after in the realms of the worlds.
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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2018, 09:13:58 AM »
Okasa bhante,

Actually what I meant by "on behalf of future/other people" is not about becoming an agent of someone but is something like below.

Eg:
Asking a question that I currently don't need but for the benefit of future new comers or other members.
Posting something to make the forum helpful or enthusiastic to others.
...etc.

Vandami Bhante.

*  Bhante alaways suspect me.  :)

Sila first! If having or observing silas, then what ever giving will fill up the tank full.

Vandami Bhante.

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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2018, 10:54:48 AM »
* Johann : Everybody (would/will) suspect you, as long wanderer gus runs around in disguise, acts childish and is not able to introduce and show himself in proper ways, stay either an object to produce bad kamma for others or produces himself in this way and in both cases harms both, himself and others to give space for wrong views to grow.

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Asking a question that I currently don't need but for the benefit of future new comers or other members.
Posting something to make the forum helpful or enthusiastic to others.

As told, what ever Dana and preperation for others to be able to access Noble Domain is good. The more based on Silas, the more a sacrify upwardly and not so much downwardly or for equal, the better. If he likes to prepare the forum that it is better accessable for those speaking Sinhalese, such would be a great service. It thinking to post not given what everybody can google or things not given and in householder domain, better not.

What ever Wanderer Gus feels inspired.

A way to use the forum - Eine Art das Forum zu nutzen Welcome [Forum Guide]

Generally, for one in practice, it's better to make services ("where can I help, what can I do") than to enjoy certain freedom one does not really have now and forgetting ones duties. (See topics like: FAQ über sangham.net (für Haushälter) )

(Generaly see also topics like: Association with pets - Associated rebith? , Sozialisieren, mit wem und warum | Socialize with who, why | ធ្វើសង្គមមូបនីយកម្ម , Association with the Devas - associated Rebirth . And the five proper times/objects of gifts: best orientation for everyone till Arahatahood on where, fro whom and when to make gifts.)
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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2018, 11:05:03 AM »
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Asking a question that I currently don't need but for the benefit of future new comers or other members.

Wanderer gus , again in detail on subject on this:

That is actually costume, althought western modern find it childish.

Even Arahat cross-question each others, to increase their own skills and to perform a borderland for others.

Yes, totally. It was spoken about the matter some times ago and maybe my person can link the topic.

But, How ever, in certain areas, for medias, or to win costumers, such has become like actors livelihood. There are monks and lay teacher who train artificial shows to earn a living. Such is ugly and entertainer-livelihood, often leading to low realms.


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It has been discussed in Unzufriedenheit mit dem Heiligen Leben (Schüler, Lehrerpflichten & Mitgefühl) in relation with duties of disciple and teacher.

It's not good when one performs such question and answer session, thinking "I am smart and will help", especially when not really smart and not really a giver yet. Better here to see it as a training for oneself.

Also in cases when asking, and others tell things one might know, one should not think "why does he tell me that, I know. Does he think I am a fool?", like it happens here also. Sometimes things are said that others might find borderlands. Does wanderer gus see and understand this aspect here?

Nurishing by questiin and answer sessions keeps not only vital but alive. If people think that they could google if wishing to understand, if people at large think that they can come from outer lands to Noble Domain without Nissaya and going into dependency, without Sangha, then this Dhamma-Vinaya has died. The Dhamma-gotschi has been gone and no more field of merits to access over this borderlands is a avaliable in this world.
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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2018, 11:32:39 AM »
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Asking a question that I currently don't need but for the benefit of future new comers or other members.
Even Arahat cross-question each others, to increase their own skills and to perform a borderland for others.
Yes, totally.

That was what I did in some of my posts.
But there is a disadvantage of it.
I had to get called as patriot, metta trader, household-domain-questioner, asura,  ..etc.

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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2018, 11:43:45 AM »
Oh you poor mistreaded wanderer... you break the heart of everyone  ^-^

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Also in cases when asking, and others tell things one might know, one should not think "why does he tell me that, I know. Does he think I am a fool?", like it happens here also. Sometimes things are said that others might find borderlands. Does wanderer gus see and understand this aspect here?

How should my person ever write as fast his mind changes from kusala to akusala to defused...
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