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Danilo: did Bhante's health get better?

2020 Jan 22 09:37:11
Danilo: Bhante Johann _/\_

2020 Jan 21 19:20:53
Johann: Meister Moritz

2020 Jan 21 19:01:10
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 21 13:09:02
Johann: Blind like ants are being believing in technic, scients and incapable to trace where and how effects take their cause.

2020 Jan 20 19:30:27
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 19 20:32:04
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 19 20:29:34
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 19 15:01:46
Johann: some moved to topic here

2020 Jan 19 10:20:11
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 19 10:03:16
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 18 08:14:54
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 18 05:57:52
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Sila day

2020 Jan 17 19:19:18
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:37:01
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:14:15
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 17 13:39:36
Sophorn: Many greetings to everyone,

2020 Jan 17 13:39:19
Sophorn:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 17 10:29:19
Johann: "so, now I go up and clear the area a little, make some merits, and I will not share my merits, with anybody..."  ^-^

2020 Jan 17 08:49:11
Chanroth: ធ្វើអាស្រមហើយចេញពីរសេចក្ដីល្អ ធ្វើអ្វីដើម្បីខ្លួល្អជាង

2020 Jan 17 08:45:08
Chanroth: សូមលាហើយ

2020 Jan 17 08:33:16
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 17 06:56:27
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Uposatha, those observing it today.

2020 Jan 17 06:45:45
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 17 06:44:49
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 16 23:01:31
Moritz: Mr. Lew _/\_

2020 Jan 15 14:16:00
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:15:29
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:12:01
Johann: Nyom

2020 Jan 15 10:24:02
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:21:50
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:11:56
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:22:36
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:04:02
Moritz: _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:34:30
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:31:02
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, may happiness come to fullfillment, all

2020 Jan 12 21:27:15
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Visitor _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:26:54
Cheav Villa:  Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:26:06
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:21
Moritz: Visitor _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:09
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:59
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:50
Johann: Good on working isn't a bad reservation. Sokh chomreoun

2020 Jan 12 21:16:12
Cheav Villa: I kana in working conditions in the ministry  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 17:24:45
Johann: How is Nyom Villa doing? Seems as if more reserved

2020 Jan 11 21:30:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 21:27:10
Johann: On the other side it's just visible for Aramika, so also fine to leave it as it is.

2020 Jan 11 21:18:06
Johann: but possible good to change it, since looking of course strange

2020 Jan 11 21:17:02
Johann: The visitor account, since enail needed, has Atmas email, yes. Nothing wrong, Nyom.

2020 Jan 11 21:10:13
Cheav Villa: Mr. Visitor is using Bhante mail on Sangham ^-^ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 17:28:39
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 11 17:19:29
Johann: Well then. Mudita. And to use old account is also no problem, or a new one.

2020 Jan 11 17:13:25
Visitor:  *sgift* Will return soon. will share one from lot.  :) Stay healthy. Be happy.

2020 Jan 11 17:06:13
Johann: Sure, why not? An also sure that Atma will try what ever possible that Nyom-Deva would take on existance where Dhamma can completely comprehended. My Nyom do as he feels fit and inspired.

2020 Jan 11 17:03:02
Visitor: For I am out of community and practice to be independent too -- decided when couldn't find Gem(liberated one, buddha, venerable).

2020 Jan 11 17:00:13
Visitor: If I share one of those practices, will uncle allow that? Will uncle give way to me to give as a 'Visitor'? Even when it's out of community.

2020 Jan 11 16:57:53
Johann: It's importand to see that liberation is possible, and people having gained independency are met = Savaka Sangha

2020 Jan 11 16:55:26
Johann: It's importand, aside of the deva-messangers, birth, sickness, aging death, to meet the Buddha, Arahat, Samana, so that real Saddha may arise. Books hardly can provide such "it's not just a story"

2020 Jan 11 16:50:04
Visitor: Practice leads to experience -coming slowly-2 me already. Did uncle find any Gems(Ven. Buddha) to associate with?

2020 Jan 11 16:45:42
Johann: Only by practicing and association with the Gems can Dhamma be gained. Consuming 1000 book wouldn't help

2020 Jan 11 16:43:02
Johann: What does one, seeing his decay, keep him from sharing?

2020 Jan 11 16:41:31
Johann: Giving ways to let others give is also a-maccariya

2020 Jan 11 16:39:42
Johann: And books are lasting? Sharing about oldage, sickness and death is teaching the 1 Noble truth very real, or?

2020 Jan 11 16:35:58
Visitor: What does old uncle want to offer when he is also impermanent? Dhamma-it's already in books! Experience-it will come soon to me too.

2020 Jan 11 16:30:29
Johann: If needing something, just let it be known (any language

2020 Jan 11 16:29:50
Johann: Nyom unknown

2020 Jan 11 16:28:47
Visitor:  *thumb* :-\ :( ;-) *gift*

2020 Jan 11 08:13:55
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 11 08:11:25
Moritz: Oh, I just wanted to write something to you, Bong Villa. But now have to go, driving taxi. ^-^ Later. _/\_ Chom reap leah

2020 Jan 11 08:05:56
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 07:46:49
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 10 19:57:45
Johann: Bhante

2020 Jan 10 19:37:57
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 10 16:11:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 12:07:13
Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom

2020 Jan 10 11:34:53
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 10 11:08:47
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 10 11:00:22
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 06:05:50
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 05:02:29
Johann: May those keeping the full moon Uposatha today, spend an auspicious time engaged in merits

2020 Jan 09 20:17:28
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 20:07:28
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 18:57:51
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Those who have confidence in the Awakened One have confidence in what is supreme; and for those with confidence in the supreme, supreme is the result.

2020 Jan 09 17:33:14
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 16:13:20
Johann: No problem at all.

2020 Jan 09 16:12:52
Johann: Atma wrote: Oh, master Moritz celebrates his Birthday today. And if remembering right, just one day before Mastress Sophorn.

2020 Jan 09 16:11:21
Johann:  :)

2020 Jan 09 16:10:58
Johann: oh that is bad: Nyom needs to cite Thor Twai bpngum 5 times

2020 Jan 09 16:09:02
Cheav Villa: I kana sorry for deleted <.I.> _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 16:05:44
Cheav Villa: All the best wishes to you Master Moritz  _/\_ :D

2020 Jan 09 08:29:01
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 07:08:24
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Sadhu

2020 Jan 09 06:16:07
Johann: A blessed Uposatha those who maintain it today

2020 Jan 09 04:50:31
Khemakumara: Nyom

2020 Jan 08 22:06:08
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Jan 08 21:45:09
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 08 20:55:46
Khemakumara: Nyom

2020 Jan 08 20:47:42
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 08 18:48:15
Johann: Bhante

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Author Topic: A blessing for your ways to help: សង្គហសិវៈបានំ Saŋgha seva pānaṁ  (Read 3184 times)

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atthacariyā (3. Sanghavatthu): ការប្រព្រឹត្តជាប្រយោជន៍ដល់គ្នានិងគ្នា: "បណ្តាការ​ប្រព្រឹត្តិអំពើ​ឲ្យជា​ប្រយោជន៍​ទាំងឡាយ ការប្រព្រឹត្តិ​អំពើឲ្យជា​ប្រយោជន៍​ដ៏ប្រសើរនុ៎ះ គឺបុគ្គល​អ្នកញុំាង​ជន​មិនមាន​សទ្ធា ឲ្យកាន់យក ឲ្យតាំងនៅ ឲ្យដំកល់ស៊ប់ ក្នុង​សទ្ធាសម្បទា ញុំាងជន​ទ្រុស្តសីល ឲ្យកាន់យក ឲ្យតាំងនៅ ឲ្យដំកល់ស៊ប់ ក្នុងសីលសម្បទា ញុំាងជន​អ្នកមាន​សេចក្តី​កំណាញ់ ឲ្យកាន់យក ឲ្យតាំងនៅ ឲ្យដំកល់ស៊ប់ ក្នុងចាគសម្បទា ញុំាងជន​អ្នក​មិនមាន​បញ្ញា ឲ្យកាន់យក ឲ្យតាំងនៅ ឲ្យដំកល់ស៊ប់ ក្នុងបញ្ញាសម្បទា "

This point is most extensive explained by the Buddha, transporting "walk the talk":

Does one teaching not to take what is not given, when himselves still walks into the forest like villagers, increases Saddha or simply, if not destroying, paint the teaching in wrong color, saying "it's ok, if for good reason?

Does it increase Saddha, if teaching renouncing but seeking for villages and all man's places?

Does it increase Saddha if driving with cars for the sake of making this world less suffering and more cool?...

That ways, if not transporting (still I am actually not able for my self now) paint total wrong pictures in confirming the normal man's way: wrong means "but for a good sake...".

To put the Silas and ways of those living Brahmacariya always higher and stick to them consequent, teach and encourage to such by means that increase Saddha, is what is meant by atthacariyā.

Leaving this vatthu for the sake of "help" destroys not only the Sangha but is of very poor effects for, if even, very less.

As the teaching toward parents contains (Pabbata Sutta: A Mountain (បព្វតរាជសុត្តំ ) as well, be a mountain, only then you are of help for your children.

Or in simply words:

A Mold

You (school)teachers are a mold for forming people, so you should turn toward the direction of the Dhamma and practice the Dhamma. Behave yourselves in a way that can be an example for others. You're like a mold for making Buddha amulets. Have you ever seen one? Just a single mold: They carve it well, carving the face, the eyebrows, the chin so that they aren't crooked or missing anything, so that the Buddha amulets they stamp out of it will come out beautiful. And when they come out they really are beautiful because of that one good mold.

It's the same with schoolteachers, who are molds for their students and for people at large. You have to make yourselves beautiful in terms of the personal qualities of a good teacher. You always have to behave in line with your ethical discipline and the pattern of a leader and guide. Abandon all forms of intoxication and unskillful behavior. Try to restore high standards of morality. You have to be a good example to the children.

Vines

Children are like vines. Wherever a vine sprouts up, it has to look for a tree to climb up. If one tree is 15 centimeters away and another 10 meters away, which tree do you think the vine will climb up? It'll climb up the nearest tree. It's probably not going to climb up the tree 10 meters away because that one is too far off.

In the same way, schoolteachers are the people closest to their students. They're the people who children are most likely to take as examples. So it's essential that you schoolteachers have good manners and standards of behavior — in terms of what you should do and should abandon — for children to see. Don't teach them just with your mouths. The way you stand, the way you walk, the way you sit — your every movement, your every word — you have to make into a teaching for the children. They'll follow your example because children are quick to pick things up. They're quicker than adults.

After all, a person teaching others, but not walking the talk, is neither on the way up nor could he excel a person who just walk the talk but does not teach: Sikkha Sutta: Trainings , (៩. សិក្ខាបទសុត្តំ ).

To ឲ្យកាន់យក, encourage to hold on the yoke (yoga), if Nyom Sophorn likes to put all given into good English and German, which the father of many here might understand, able to read, and/or Nyom Cheav Villa feels that it could be written in Khmer as well, of which even more near relatives could read and understand, such is of course a yoke, helpfull in the first three points.Later on, Bhante Indaññāno could put all even in much better and more skilful words and putting the "sugar" of Pali, missing here, on it as well in a talk on it, out of compassion.
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samānattatā (4. Sangha-Vatthu): ការតាំងខ្លួនស្មើៗ: "បណ្តាភាព​ជាអ្នកតាំង​ខ្លួនសើ្មទាំងឡាយ ភាពជាអ្នក​តាំងខ្លួនសើ្ម​ដ៏ប្រសើរនុ៎ះ គឺ​សោតាបន្នបុគ្គល មានខ្លួនសើ្ម​នឹងសោតាបន្នបុគ្គល សកទាគាមិបុគ្គល មានខ្លួន​សើ្មនឹង​សកទាគាមិ​បុគ្គល អនាគាមិ​បុគ្គល មានខ្លួនសើ្មនឹង​អនាគាមិបុគ្គល អរហន្ត មានខ្លួន​ស្មើនឹង​អរហន្ត ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ នេះហៅថា សង្គហពលៈ។".

This here is probably most difficult to understand, but actually points at Satipaṭṭhāna, to be aware of ones body, feelings, mind and Dhamma, calling for heedfulness (appamāda), meaning that one should be clear of where he/she actually is, behave not heedless and seek for the next step, path and fruit.
One should not give and associate with lower (inwardly and outwardly) and prepear oneself to be able to dwell among equal or higher, meaning to "pull or force" others, if wishing to follow, to leave upwards and not walking back, out of defiled compassion, doing the "we"-staff in Villages.

If teaching, or giving upward, it must be pure compassion and the words of the Buddha surely are of better use for many, reciting here: Sevitabba Sutta: Should be associated .

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa


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[២៦] ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល៣ពួកនេះ រមែងមាននៅក្នុងលោក។  បុគ្គល៣ពួក តើដូចម្ដេច។  ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលដែលគេមិនគួរសេព មិនគួរគប់រក មិនគួរចូលទៅអង្គុយជិត ១ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលដែលគេគួរសេព គួរគប់រក គួរចូលទៅអង្គុយជិត ១ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលដែលគេគួរធ្វើសក្ការៈ ធ្វើសេចក្ដីគោរព ហើយទើបសេពគប់ ចូលទៅអង្គុយជិត ១។  ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះបុគ្គល ដែលគេមិនគួរសេព មិនគួរគប់រក មិនគួរចូលទៅអង្គុយជិត តើដូចម្ដេច។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលពួកខ្លះ ក្នុងលោកនេះ ជាអ្នកសាបសូន្យ ចាកសីល សមាធិ បញ្ញា ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល មានសភាពយ៉ាងនេះ គេមិន​គួរសេព មិនគួរគប់រក មិនគួរចូលទៅអង្គុយជិត លើកលែងតែមានសេចក្ដីអាណិត ឬលើកលែងតែ​មាន​សេចក្ដី​អនុគ្រោះ​ចេញ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះបុគ្គល ដែលគេគួរសេព គួរគប់រក គួរចូលទៅអង្គុយជិត តើដូចម្ដេច។  ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលពួកខ្លះ ក្នុងលោកនេះ ជាអ្នកស្មើគ្នា ដោយសីល សមាធិ បញ្ញា ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលមានសភាពយ៉ាងនេះ ដែលគេគួរសេព គួរគប់រក គួរចូលទៅអង្គុយជិត។ ដំណើរនោះ ព្រោះហេតុអ្វី។  ព្រោះគេគិតថា សីលកថា របស់ពួកសប្បុរសអ្នកមានសីលស្មើគ្នា នឹងមាន​ដល់ពួក​យើងផង សីលកថានោះ នឹងមានសេចក្ដីចំរើន ដល់ពួកយើងផង សីលកថានោះ នឹងនាំឲ្យបានសុខដល់ពួកយើងផង សមាធិ​កថា របស់ពួកសប្បុរស អ្នកមានសមាធិស្មើគ្នា នឹងមានដល់ពួកយើងផង សមាធិកថានោះ នឹងមានសេចក្ដីចំរើន ដល់ពួក​យើង​ផង សមាធិកថានោះ នឹងនាំឲ្យបានសេចក្ដីសុខ ដល់ពួកយើងផង បញ្ញាកថា របស់ពួកសប្បុរស អ្នកមានបញ្ញាស្មើគ្នា នឹងមាន​ដល់​ពួកយើងផង បញ្ញាកថានោះ នឹងមានសេចក្ដីចំរើន ដល់ពួកយើងផង បញ្ញាកថានោះ នឹងនាំឲ្យ​បាន​សេចក្ដីសុខ​ដល់​ពួក​យើង​ផង។  ហេតុនោះ បុគ្គលមានសភាពយ៉ាងនេះ ដែលគេគួរសេព គួរគប់រក គួរចូលទៅអង្គុយជិត។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះបុគ្គល​ដែល​គេគួរធ្វើសក្ការៈ ធ្វើសេចក្ដីគោរព ហើយទើបសេពគប់ ចូលទៅអង្គុយជិត តើដូចម្ដេច។
ម្នាល​ភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលពួកខ្លះ ក្នុងលោកនេះ ជាអ្នកលើសដោយសីល សមាធិ បញ្ញា ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គលមាន​សភាព​យ៉ាងនេះ ដែលគួរធ្វើសក្ការៈ ធ្វើសេចក្ដីគោរព ហើយទើបសេពគប់ ចូលទៅអង្គុយជិត។ ដំណើរនោះ ព្រោះហេតុអ្វី។  ព្រោះគេ​គិត​ថា អាត្មាអញ នឹងបំពេញសីលក្ខន្ធ ដែលមិនទាន់បរិបូណ៌ ឲ្យបរិបូណ៌ឡើងផង នឹងអនុគ្រោះសីលក្ខន្ធ ដែលបរិបូណ៌ហើយ ក្នុងទី​នោះៗ ដោយបញ្ញាផង នឹងបំពេញសមាធិក្ខន្ធ ដែលមិនទាន់បរិបូណ៌ ឲ្យបរិបូណ៌ឡើងផង នឹងអនុគ្រោះសមាធិក្ខន្ធ ដែល​បរិបូណ៌​ហើយ ក្នុងទីនោះៗ ដោយបញ្ញាផង នឹងបំពេញបញ្ញាខន្ធ ដែលមិនទាន់បរិបូណ៌ ឲ្យបរិបូណ៌ឡើងផងនឹងអនុគ្រោះបញ្ញាខន្ធ ដែល​បរិបូណ៌​ហើយ ក្នុងទីនោះៗ ដោយបញ្ញាផង។  ហេតុនោះ បុគ្គលមានសភាពយ៉ាងនេះ ដែលគេគួរធ្វើសក្ការៈ ធ្វើសេចក្ដីគោរព ហើយ​ទើបសេពគប់ ចូលទៅអង្គុយជិត។  ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បុគ្គល៣ ពួកនេះ រមែងមាននៅក្នុងលោក។

បុរសអ្នកសេពគប់បុគ្គលថោកទាប រមែងសាបសូន្យ បើសេពគប់បុគ្គលស្មើគ្នា មិនគប្បីសាបសូន្យ ក្នុងកាលណាឡើយ បើបុរសចូលទៅគប់រកបុគ្គល ដែលប្រសើរ (ជាងខ្លួន) រមែងចំរើនឆាប់ ព្រោះហេតុនោះ បុរស គួរគប់នឹងបុគ្គល ដែលប្រសើរលើសខ្លួន (ទើបប្រសើរ)។

And here all actually comes down to the so low seeming simple teaching of giving and helping, inwardly and outwardly, at the five proper times:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

កាលទានសូត្រ ទី៦

[៣៦] ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ កាលទាននេះ មាន ៥ យ៉ាង។ ៥ យ៉ាង ដូចម្តេចខ្លះ។ គឺឲ្យទានដល់អ្នកមកថ្មី ​១ ឲ្យទានដល់អ្នកមានដំណើរ ១ ឲ្យទានដល់អ្នកមានជម្ងឺ ១ ឲ្យទាន ក្នុងពេលអត់បាយ ១ បានដំកល់ស្រូវថ្មី ផ្លែឈើដំបូង ដល់បុគ្គល​មាន​សីល​ទាំង​ឡាយ ជាដំបូង ១។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ នេះឯង ជាកាលទាន ៥ យ៉ាង។
   
ពួកជនមានបញ្ញា ដឹងភាសិតរបស់អ្នកប្រាជ្ញ មានសេចក្តីកំណាញ់​ប្រាស​ចេញ​ហើយ មានចិត្តជ្រះថ្លាហើយ រមែងឲ្យទាន ក្នុងកាលគួរ ទានដែលបុគ្គលឲ្យ តាម​កាលគួរ ចំពោះព្រះអរិយបុគ្គលទាំងឡាយ ដែលជាបុគ្គលមានកាយ និងចិត្ត ប្រកប​ដោយតាទិគុណ ទក្ខិណាទានរបស់បុគ្គលនោះ ជាទានមានផលបរិបូណ៌។ ពួកជនណា អនុមោទនា ឬធ្វើសេចក្តីខ្វល់ខ្វាយ ​ក្នុងទក្ខិណាទាននោះ ទក្ខិណាទាន របស់អ្នកទាំងនោះ នឹងបានឈ្មោះថា ជាទានថយថោក ព្រោះតែអនុមោទនា ឬធ្វើការខ្វល់ខ្វាយ​នោះក៏ទេ ពួក​ជន​ទាំង​នោះ ជាអ្នកបានចំណែកបុណ្យដែរ។ ព្រោះហេតុនោះ ទានដែលបុគ្គលឲ្យហើយ ដល់បុគ្គលណា ជាទានមានផលច្រើន បុគ្គលមានចិត្តមិនបានរួញរា គប្បីឲ្យទាន ចំពោះបុគ្គលនោះ ព្រោះថា បុណ្យទាំងឡាយ រមែងជាទីពឹងនៃពួកសត្វ ក្នុងលោកខាងមុខ។

Once one has entered the wheel of Dhamma, there is no more danger to fall out again till reaching the beyond. Having reached the beyond, the tool actually have done it's cause and can be dropped.

Whether one has then lasting fuel to help others by giving and does not leave the dwelling of the Araht, might be different in any individual case, how ever, as the Buddha always pushed forward, if wishing to do anything for longlasting happiness and welbeing for the world and it's inhabitats, so that the Dhamma-Vinaya lasts long, seek for the aim that this world and land... is not void of Arahats (not Ahara-hats).

This is what my person does not give back out of gratidute having meet the different to pseudo-liberalism through the family here, put push it "heartless" forward, so that nobody might rest in feeling the deal started is over yet: not even the Devas are doing generousity in exchange, the Buddha once taught the monks with a story of past live, note that this monk was accused of following the Bodhisatta path, yet serving his fellows (not to speak if one would serve for lower). And with this story on generosity my person will end here, of course continue if there are further questions:

The monk who was devoted to generosity - Der Mönch, der Spenden liebte .

Leading then to this, which one wisely considers in eating Dhamma as well:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Giving even one's last meal

"If beings knew, as I know, the results of giving & sharing, they would not eat without having given, nor would the stain of miserliness overcome their minds. Even if it were their last bite, their last mouthful, they would not eat without having shared, if there were someone to receive their gift. But because beings do not know, as I know, the results of giving & sharing, they eat without having given. The stain of miserliness overcomes their minds."

— Iti 26

៦. ទានសូត្រ

[២៦] ខ្ញុំបានស្ដាប់មកថា​ ព្រះមានព្រះភាគ ទ្រង់ត្រាស់ហើយ ព្រះអរហន្ត​សំដែង​ហើយ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ បើពួក​សត្វដឹង​ផល​នៃការ​ចែកទាន ដូចជា​តថាគត​ដឹង​ដូច្នោះ បើមិន​ទាន់ឲ្យ​ទានទេ ក៏មិនហ៊ាន​បរិភោគ​ឡើយ មួយទៀត មន្ទិល គឺ​សេចក្ដី​កំណាញ់​របស់សត្វ​ទាំងនោះ ក៏មិន​គ្របសង្កត់​ចិត្តបាន​ឡើយ។ ទោះបី​ពំនូក​បាយ​ជាដម្បូង ដុំបាយជាដម្បូង​ឯណា​ របស់សត្វ​ទាំងឡាយ​នោះ សត្វទាំងឡាយ មិនបាន​រំលែក​អំពីពំនូត​បាយនោះ ក៏មិន​បរិភោគឡើយ បើសត្វ​ទាំងនោះ មាន​បដិគ្គាហកបុគ្គល។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំងឡាយ គថាគតដឹង​ផលនៃ​ការឲ្យ និងការចែករលែក​យ៉ាង​ណា សត្វ​ទាំង​ឡាយ មិនដឹង​យ៉ាងនោះ​ទេ ព្រោះ​ហេតុណា ហេតុនោះ សត្វ​ទាំងឡាយ មិនបាន​ឲ្យទាន​ហើយ ទើប​ហ៊ាន​បរិភោគ​ មួយទៀត មន្ទិល គឺសេចក្ដី​កំណាញ់ ក៏តែង​គ្របសង្កត់​ចិត្ត​សត្វទាំង​ឡាយ​នោះ។ លុះ​ព្រះមានព្រះភាគ ទ្រង់សំដែង​សេចក្ដីនុ៎ះ​ហើយ។ ទ្រង់​ត្រាស់​គាថាព័ន្ធ​នេះ ក្នុងសូត្រ​នោះថា
បើសត្វទាំងឡាយ គប្បីដឹងផល នៃការ​ចែករលែក ថាមាន​ផលច្រើន ដូច​ព្រះពុទ្ធ​ទ្រង់ស្វែង​រកគុណ​ដ៏ធំ ត្រាស់ទុក​ហើយ​យ៉ាងនេះ សត្វ​ទាំងឡាយ មាន​ចិត្តជ្រះថ្លា គប្បី​បន្ទោបង់​មន្ទិល គឺ​សេចក្ដី​កំណាញ់​ចេញ ទានដែល​គេឲ្យហើយ ដល់​ព្រះអរិយៈ​ទាំងឡាយ​ណា រមែងមាន​ផលច្រើន បុគ្គល​ទាំងឡាយ គួរឲ្យទាន​ដល់​ព្រះអរិយៈ​ទាំង​នោះ ក្នុងកាល​ដ៏គួរ មួយទៀត ជនច្រើននាក់ ឲ្យបាយ​ជាទក្ខិណាទាន ដល់​ទក្ខិណេយ្យបុគ្គល​ទាំងឡាយ ទាយក​ទាំងឡាយ លុះ​ច្យុតអំពី​អត្តភាព​ជាមនុស្ស​នេះ​ហើយ រមែង​ទៅកាន់​ឋានសួគ៌ ទាយក​ទាំងនោះ លុះទៅ​កាន់​ឋានសួគ៌ ជាអ្នក​មានចំណង់​ក្នុងកាម រមែង​រីករាយ ក្នុងស្ថាន​សួគ៌​នោះ សត្វ​ទាំងឡាយ មិន​កំណាញ់ រមែង​សោយផល នៃការ​ចែករលែក។
ខ្ញុំបានស្ដាប់មកហើយថា សេចក្ដីនេះឯង ព្រះមានព្រះភាគ បានត្រាស់​ទុកហើយ។ សូត្រ ទី៦។

Anumodana punna kusala

* Johann : sorry that there is less output in regard of Pali and my those, skilled in languages, if of use for liberation here, out of compassion, give of what other don't have to share.
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And this was why my person said, that the actuall thought behind saṅghaṃ sāvakā bhaṇanta, "speech toward/for the Savaka Sangha", was not so wrong in it deeper meaning.

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កូណាសូមអរព្រះគុណ​ នូវមហាករុណា​តិគុណ​ របស់ព្រះអង្គ
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Mudita. Atma will share MN 58 in Khmer on another place later, that it also can be readed, in relation to peyyavajjaṃ.

Maybe Ven. Muni (not sure if understanding english) likes also to read through it and possible correct mistakes and fill craps, out of compassion.
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Only in German for now.

Atma, Nyom Sophorn , hat einst eine etwas strukturiere Erklärung zum Thema "Dienen", d.h. Helfen, daß sich schon in der Sphere von Sila und dem Pfad befindet, geschrieben, welches sicherlich gut zum Thema paßt, und Upasaka @Chrek B , der ja sehr Hingebungsvoll darin ist, vielleicht ebenfalls nützlich sein kann: Dienen - Veyyāvacca .

* Johann : Um hier mitlesen zu können, benötigt es eingeloggt zu sein, wie für viele andere tiefere Bereiche, Nyom.
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Kana would understand by translation dictionary with a phrase,
Should or should not   :D _/\_

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It's always better to use offered, personal given. If there is an offering, and one needs,  from virtuous person, with right view and bend to Nibbana, or a person bend to the world, a trader, always take that from the first person.

It's not wrong to ask if needing something, but its total wrong to try to deny obligations and debts, and take it from somewhere else, thinking it's free.

To understand the matter and the moder "click" illusion, one may read: Giving, taking and the "new" world. , Nyom Cheav Villa .

Those using "free"-things, the things from the forest, are total crazy and have no idea how much they increase debrs highly toward Mara. A person using "free stuff", facebook, google, freeware... will approximatly increase his/her debts by $1000 and more a year, without being aware, without considering the dealers intention.
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សម្មាសតិ toward Sila. To learn to understand by seeing and how hard it actually is, how less real giving there is: Nyom could ask Mr. sungkhum personal for her or others use and either find out the truth of "free" or guid him to auspicious merits if he has Upanissaya toward the Sangha.
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Most are thinking that my person wastes time in trying to supply things given consciously toward the Sangha and their follower saying: "Why the effort when you can get it for 'free'".
Who ever likes to face great poorness and decay of the community should go on, who ever understands the danger of the world, danger of debts toward it, may make use of what is therefore given. My person does not fear that maxism and secularism soon takes over the whole world making it the darkes place ever since in history of this world.

The four right times of giving.
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