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2020 Jan 24 08:29:47
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2020 Jan 24 08:28:40
Cheav Villa: But could not help only giving drinking water. Bhante told his lost in this area 3days ago then he walr

2020 Jan 24 08:24:26
Cheav Villa: with Dad and Srey muk kamao, going to visit His Grand ma Grand pa. Fortunately he met Bhante Khmema kumara on the main road

2020 Jan 24 08:22:10
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante this morning aroung 7.30 kana son arrived near Psar Tram kna on national road number3

2020 Jan 24 08:20:39
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2020 Jan 24 07:05:21
Johann: A blessed chinese new year, new moon Uposatha those who celebrate it today.

2020 Jan 23 21:53:22
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2020 Jan 23 21:46:43
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2020 Jan 23 21:25:30
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2020 Jan 23 11:48:02
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2020 Jan 22 09:39:03
Danilo: did Bhante's health get better?

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2020 Jan 21 19:20:53
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2020 Jan 20 19:30:27
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2020 Jan 19 20:32:04
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2020 Jan 18 08:14:54
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2020 Jan 18 05:57:52
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Sila day

2020 Jan 17 19:19:18
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:37:01
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2020 Jan 17 18:14:15
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2020 Jan 17 13:39:36
Sophorn: Many greetings to everyone,

2020 Jan 17 13:39:19
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2020 Jan 17 10:29:19
Johann: "so, now I go up and clear the area a little, make some merits, and I will not share my merits, with anybody..."  ^-^

2020 Jan 17 08:49:11
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2020 Jan 17 08:45:08
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2020 Jan 17 08:33:16
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2020 Jan 17 06:56:27
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Uposatha, those observing it today.

2020 Jan 17 06:45:45
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 17 06:44:49
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2020 Jan 15 11:12:01
Johann: Nyom

2020 Jan 15 10:24:02
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:21:50
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:11:56
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:22:36
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:04:02
Moritz: _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:34:30
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:31:02
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, may happiness come to fullfillment, all

2020 Jan 12 21:27:15
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2020 Jan 12 21:26:54
Cheav Villa:  Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:26:06
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:21
Moritz: Visitor _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:09
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:59
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:50
Johann: Good on working isn't a bad reservation. Sokh chomreoun

2020 Jan 12 21:16:12
Cheav Villa: I kana in working conditions in the ministry  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 17:24:45
Johann: How is Nyom Villa doing? Seems as if more reserved

2020 Jan 11 21:30:11
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2020 Jan 11 21:27:10
Johann: On the other side it's just visible for Aramika, so also fine to leave it as it is.

2020 Jan 11 21:18:06
Johann: but possible good to change it, since looking of course strange

2020 Jan 11 21:17:02
Johann: The visitor account, since enail needed, has Atmas email, yes. Nothing wrong, Nyom.

2020 Jan 11 21:10:13
Cheav Villa: Mr. Visitor is using Bhante mail on Sangham ^-^ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 17:28:39
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 11 17:19:29
Johann: Well then. Mudita. And to use old account is also no problem, or a new one.

2020 Jan 11 17:13:25
Visitor:  *sgift* Will return soon. will share one from lot.  :) Stay healthy. Be happy.

2020 Jan 11 17:06:13
Johann: Sure, why not? An also sure that Atma will try what ever possible that Nyom-Deva would take on existance where Dhamma can completely comprehended. My Nyom do as he feels fit and inspired.

2020 Jan 11 17:03:02
Visitor: For I am out of community and practice to be independent too -- decided when couldn't find Gem(liberated one, buddha, venerable).

2020 Jan 11 17:00:13
Visitor: If I share one of those practices, will uncle allow that? Will uncle give way to me to give as a 'Visitor'? Even when it's out of community.

2020 Jan 11 16:57:53
Johann: It's importand to see that liberation is possible, and people having gained independency are met = Savaka Sangha

2020 Jan 11 16:55:26
Johann: It's importand, aside of the deva-messangers, birth, sickness, aging death, to meet the Buddha, Arahat, Samana, so that real Saddha may arise. Books hardly can provide such "it's not just a story"

2020 Jan 11 16:50:04
Visitor: Practice leads to experience -coming slowly-2 me already. Did uncle find any Gems(Ven. Buddha) to associate with?

2020 Jan 11 16:45:42
Johann: Only by practicing and association with the Gems can Dhamma be gained. Consuming 1000 book wouldn't help

2020 Jan 11 16:43:02
Johann: What does one, seeing his decay, keep him from sharing?

2020 Jan 11 16:41:31
Johann: Giving ways to let others give is also a-maccariya

2020 Jan 11 16:39:42
Johann: And books are lasting? Sharing about oldage, sickness and death is teaching the 1 Noble truth very real, or?

2020 Jan 11 16:35:58
Visitor: What does old uncle want to offer when he is also impermanent? Dhamma-it's already in books! Experience-it will come soon to me too.

2020 Jan 11 16:30:29
Johann: If needing something, just let it be known (any language

2020 Jan 11 16:29:50
Johann: Nyom unknown

2020 Jan 11 16:28:47
Visitor:  *thumb* :-\ :( ;-) *gift*

2020 Jan 11 08:13:55
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 11 08:11:25
Moritz: Oh, I just wanted to write something to you, Bong Villa. But now have to go, driving taxi. ^-^ Later. _/\_ Chom reap leah

2020 Jan 11 08:05:56
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2020 Jan 11 07:46:49
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2020 Jan 10 19:57:45
Johann: Bhante

2020 Jan 10 19:37:57
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 10 16:11:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 12:07:13
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2020 Jan 10 11:34:53
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2020 Jan 10 11:08:47
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 10 11:00:22
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2020 Jan 10 06:05:50
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2020 Jan 10 05:02:29
Johann: May those keeping the full moon Uposatha today, spend an auspicious time engaged in merits

2020 Jan 09 20:17:28
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 20:07:28
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 18:57:51
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Those who have confidence in the Awakened One have confidence in what is supreme; and for those with confidence in the supreme, supreme is the result.

2020 Jan 09 17:33:14
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 16:13:20
Johann: No problem at all.

2020 Jan 09 16:12:52
Johann: Atma wrote: Oh, master Moritz celebrates his Birthday today. And if remembering right, just one day before Mastress Sophorn.

2020 Jan 09 16:11:21
Johann:  :)

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Author Topic: One year after having left home and stand, one year living the holly life.  (Read 14726 times)

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Bhante Khemakumara , it's now more than a year that Venerable has given up everything outwardly, and surely huge inwardly as well.

Kana thought that Bhante might be possible that generouse to reflect on this and share a little about an "special Aussteiger" life.

Maybe some questions as starter:

How does he generally feel now? Better, more worse, similar then a year ago, before going forth?

How about missing things? Does he miss something that he gave up?

How about mental dukkha? More, lesser, same?

How about his health and bodily dukkha? More, lesser, same?

Did he miss out something he expected before? Are there certain insatisfactions till here?

What if things would just stay and repeat as they did/do in this mode? Would such be fine?

Is there anything outwardly he missed, misses after one year, or didn't gain?

Would he recommend others to follow his way or would he recommend differently or another?

Total different life, world, everything: does he feel foreign, still a little, or as if total at home and under relatives?

Did the aspiration, the aims, aim, before and now, changed? Did ideas of which way to reach it changed?

Much joy investigation and may many benefit from possible shares.

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Some reflections:

How does he generally feel now? Better, more worse, similar then a year ago, before going forth?

yes!   sometimes feeling better, sometimes feeling more worse, sometimes feeling similar then a year ago.....

feeling this, feeling that,  all the time feeling, feeling, feeling.



How about missing things? Does he miss something that he gave up?


when someone gave up something,  letting go of something, and after a while,  thoughts come up in to the mind, missing this or that what someone gave up in the past ,  that is not really “giving up”.

In the past,as layperson, kana was a musician,working as a tattooartist,working as an educator, working with children, refugees...

kana appreciated being together with good family and good friends and so on..

kana enjoyed “these things” very much.

making “dreams come true” and had success in it.

someone could think and some people told kana “oh, that's really a good life! why giving up such a good life? would you not missing it? "

on one side, when there was something Kana was interested in,  then kana know how to create a surrounding in which it can grow and after a while enjoy the fruits of it.

but on the other side, kana had such a sense of “unsure”. everything in the world is unsure.  being confronted with sickness, death, poorness...



It is not sure to have a good job. It is not sure to have a good family. It is not sure to have good friends. wealth is not sure. home is not sure. food is not sure.

life was and is always “unsure”... in the next moment... dead

kana was always searching for "something" that is not “unsure”. 


kana do not think of “missing” something because kana do not lost something.




How about mental dukkha? More, lesser, same?


yes! sometimes more, sometimes lesser, sometimes same.


How about his health and bodily dukkha? More, lesser, same?


yes! sometimes more, sometimes lesser, sometimes same.

For over 23 years, kana was suffering from asthma, often visit the doctor and was depending on useing strong medications in daily life. until kana went to Cambodia. Now no medication is needed. Kana also suffer from mycotic infection of the feet. Now, this illness is vanish.

Did he miss out something he expected before? Are there certain insatisfactions till here?


no



What if things would just stay and repeat as they did/do in this mode? Would such be fine?

when the foundation is uncertain not stabil how can ever some-thing “just stay”? that is not possible!

Is there anything outwardly he missed, misses after one year, or didn't gain?


no

Would he recommend others to follow his way or would he recommend differently or another?

kana would not recommend other to follow “my” way. but to follow the way of the Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha the eightfold “way” path to free someone from all dukkha.

kana  encourage and recommend everyone,  to follow Buddha , Dhamma, Sangha if someone wish to become free from all dukkha.

Total different life, world, everything: does he feel foreign , still a little, or as if total at home and under relatives?


total different life, world ?

In both worlds there are living mothers.
in both worlds there are living fathers.
in both worlds there are living childrens.
in both worlds there are living families.
in both worlds there are living beings who practice generosity.
in both worlds there are living beings who practice gratefulness.
in both worlds there are living beings who practice sila.
in both worlds someone can experience dukkha.
in both worlds someone can experience sukha.
in both worlds someone can experience old age,  sickness and death.

in both worlds there are living beings with lobha, dosa, moha.

In both worlds, there are living beings, who are searching for a way out of lobha, dosa and moha.


kana can not see that there is total diffrent life, world.

being born “into the world” someone is already a foreigner, no matter which social standing or nationality.

why?  because, when someone is born “into world” someone is already separated from it.feeling “I am ” in this world. Feeling “I am” as constant, stable personality in a world which is unstable, unsure, inconstant. unable to be an insider, unable to be a part of this “community world”.

Always doing things, to get an “access” to it, to not be separated from it.


To feel “total at home” someone needs something to settle down.  a place, where someone can stay, where someone can rest. A place where someone can feel at ease.

kana do not find such a place “in the world”.


the only way, to get rid of “foreign” and being at home, under relatives is to search for someone, search for a community which already gave up “foreign” and become a relative of this community.

the only community which gave up “foreign”, is the noble Sangha of the Buddha.


and their way to home is the homelessness! having the Buddha-Dhamma as their guide.  Arriving at a home,  which is

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

calm, permanent, beyond inference, unborn, unproduced, the sorrowless, stainless state, the cessation of stressful qualities, the stilling of fabrications, bliss.
 





Did the aspiration, the aims, aim, before and now, changed? Did ideas of which way to reach it changed?


first, before practicing, kana thought “I do not want to suffer anymore, what can I do about it?! ”

then, getting in contact with Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha kana thought,

"when will I become free of dukkha? "

Now kana do not think of it very much,do not make an effort in thinking

“when will I be free from dukkha? ”

when someone practise sila, it is a natural cause, step by step, to get rid of dukkha.


Silena sugatiṁ yanti.
Through virtue they go to a good destination.

Silena bhoga-sampadā.

Through virtue is wealth attained.

Silena nibbutiṁ yanti.
Through virtue they go to Unbinding.

Tasmā silaṁ visodhaye
.
Therefore we should purify our virtue.



Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"For a person endowed with virtue, consummate in virtue, there is no need for an act of will, 'May freedom from remorse arise in me.' It is in the nature of things that freedom from remorse arises in a person endowed with virtue, consummate in virtue.



Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"And what is the wholesome? Abstention from killing living beings is wholesome; abstention from taking what is not given is wholesome; abstention from misconduct in sensual pleasures is wholesome; abstention from false speech is wholesome; abstention from malicious speech is wholesome; abstention from harsh speech is wholesome; abstention from gossip is wholesome; non-covetousness is wholesome; non-ill will is wholesome; right view is wholesome. This is called the wholesome.

7. "And what is the root of the wholesome? Non-greed is a root of the wholesome; non-hate is a root of the wholesome; non-delusion is a root of the wholesome. This is called the root of the wholesome.

8. "When a noble disciple has thus understood the unwholesome, the root of the unwholesome, the wholesome, and the root of the wholesome, he entirely abandons the underlying tendency to lust, he abolishes the underlying tendency to aversion, he extirpates the underlying tendency to the view and conceit 'I am,' and by abandoning ignorance and arousing true knowledge he here and now makes an end of suffering. In that way too a noble disciple is one of right view, whose view is straight, who has perfect confidence in the Dhamma and has arrived at this true Dhamma."






kataññū  thankfulness, grateful about mothers, fathers, family, good friends, teachers,Buddha parisā,

 Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha


kana do not practice to “gain” something,  but because of kataññū
thankfulness gratefulness!

This is quite a big change in kanas daily practise.

to practise, not because of “wanting something” but because of gratefulness. 


 
trust, saddhā , in the highest,  trust in Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha, someone will arrive at the highest.



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Sadhu, Sadhu and it's certain easy to rejoice with it. May many take part on such pleasing food from a "child" of the Khema.

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